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Mittens gets this one right, of course. But why...

2012-01-29T07:10:15.314-06:00
Mittens gets this one right, of course. But why isn't he being hailed internet-wide this morning?

Because overall, Romney came across as annoying, especially in his exchanges with Gingrich.

Another more important reason had to do with his defense of RomneyCare. He may have had a good answer on Israel, but so what?

Typical wishful thinking. What a turd.

2012-01-28T17:59:56.065-06:00
Typical wishful thinking. What a turd.

In FL, Santorum is in last place. Gingrich trails...

2012-01-28T14:57:08.059-06:00
In FL, Santorum is in last place. Gingrich trails Romney. Paul is in a solid third place. This despite not campaigning here.

As for the main thread: some 2013 Jews and Arabs in Israel will be half each of the population.

Arabs, in Israel, however, have families like Old Testament patriarchs. Jews in Israel, except for some Orthodox folk, have children like Europeans: not replacing themselves.

yours for liberty

Alan Turin

So, why don't we just keep our nose out of it ...

2012-01-28T08:17:55.658-06:00
So, why don't we just keep our nose out of it and let Israel and the Pali's fight it out? What's the fucking difference?

Eric, Laugh all you want. I wasn't the cowar...

2012-01-27T19:52:34.070-06:00
Eric,

Laugh all you want.

I wasn't the coward calling South Carolina a "tossup" the morning of the election after shilling for Romney for ten straight days (I called it for Gingrich by 9 points; he won it by 12).

If Gingrich was 30 points up in Florida right now, you'd be calling that a "tossup," too.

You make your predictions based on what you hope will happen.

I make mine based on what I actually expect to happen.

Tom, every single poll now has Romney ahead by at ...

2012-01-27T19:36:11.460-06:00
Tom, every single poll now has Romney ahead by at least 7 to 9 points in Fla.

I think you'll have to eat your hat.

And I promise, we'll all be laughing at you post-Fla.

The guy has been offered millions of dollars for h...

2012-01-27T18:41:50.873-06:00
The guy has been offered millions of dollars for his piece of shit weed patch he calls a farm. At some point this is simply a matter of eminent domain. Buy a dictionary you pathetic tool.

Again, you're a filthy fucking liar...and a nut fuck crazy shit to boot.

If you can't figure out property rights and fr...

2012-01-27T18:21:38.825-06:00
If you can't figure out property rights and freedom at this point then there is no hope.

So

2012-01-27T18:12:07.001-06:00
So

***** In our world that is the exception rather th...

2012-01-27T18:01:09.046-06:00
***** In our world that is the exception rather than the rule. *****

Right Guy,

A man born in 1914 in Jerusalem would have been a citizen of:

--- The Ottoman Empire

--- The British Empire

--- The Kingdom of Jordan

--- Israel

Maps always change. In 1940 the nations of Pakistan, Korea, the Ukraine, Burma, Kenya, Armenia and Indonesia did not even exist.

Countries come and go. I am about protecting the property rights of individuals to own their home, business or farm without Big Government stealing their property.

Property rights are basic old fashioned Edmund Burke conservatism.

In our world that is the exception rather than the...

2012-01-27T17:19:40.163-06:00
In our world that is the exception rather than the rule.

Right Guy, this is the example I use. A person bo...

2012-01-27T16:39:35.645-06:00
Right Guy, this is the example I use.

A person born in Texas in 1810 would have been a citizen of multiple nations in their lifetime.

--- A subject of the Kingdom of Spain

--- A subject of the Empire of Mexico

--- A citizen of the Republic of Mexico

--- A citizen of the Republic of Texas

--- A citizen of the United States

--- A citizen of the Confederate States of America

--- A citizen of the United States

I am not interested in the flag that may fly on the pole, but in protecting the rights of the people no matter which flag they live under.

Interesting point Gary. I wonder how it has worked...

2012-01-27T16:32:47.220-06:00
Interesting point Gary. I wonder how it has worked in other wars? Did Germans or Japanese lose land? Particularly if they moved into occupied territories that were later lost because their home countries lost the war.

War and Peace aren't necessarily justice Gary. In fact, I would argue that neither are necessarily just by default. Peace could be describe (and has) as the absence of opposition. How does one get to that point? Not by being just. If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, every day would be Christmas. The winner calls the tune and it's like that in almost every conflict. It just is Gary.

**** When Hussein lost his stupid war, the land b...

2012-01-27T16:22:30.574-06:00
**** When Hussein lost his stupid war, the land became the possession of the Israeli government. ****

WRONG Ran.

You are confusing the flag flying on the flag pole outside a government building with who has the ownership of an individual house, business or farm.

This may come as a shock to you, but people all over the world own private property . . . including Arabs.

Try reading my article: Do Arabs have property rights?

http://thefederalist-gary.blogspot.com/2011/06/do-arabs-have-property-rights.html

Eric, Of course I'm still predicting that Gingrich will win Florida.

I didn't make the prediction lightly, and I'm not going to change it just because a few Romney fangirls are getting their panties all moist fantasizing otherwise.

Are you still predicting that Romney will lose Flo...

2012-01-27T14:36:20.650-06:00
Are you still predicting that Romney will lose Florida?

Romney was lucky to get first draw on that questio...

2012-01-27T14:29:55.617-06:00
Romney was lucky to get first draw on that question, so that he could pre-empt Gingrich.

However, I suspect that most pro-Israel voters in Florida are well aware that when it comes to being downright belligerently pro-Israel, nobody holds a candle to Gingrich.

Among Jewish Republicans, he'll probably beat Romney at least 2 to 1. He'll split pro-Israel evangelicals with Santorum, but probably get the bulk of those, too. And to the extent that there are any actual "neoconservative" voters, I'd be surprised if he got less than 9 of every 10.

NO GARY. That territory was held by "Jordan&...

2012-01-27T14:12:52.067-06:00
NO GARY.

That territory was held by "Jordan" until it attacked Israel, until Jordan ceded the territory.

My heart grieves for those stuck there, never having been citizens of the august realm of the "kingdom" of Jordan - a realm where, if memory serves, the land belonged to the "crown", not the serfs farming the place.

When Hussein lost his stupid war, the land became the possession of the Israeli government.

Daoud is getting screwed, sure. I dig it. It sucks. But the difficult fact remains that his claim to ownership is not a simple matter. The legal notion of Daoud's ownership began in any real sense when Hussein lost it.

This applies to every unlucky sod in the area. Despite your shouting "PRIVATE PROPERTY," it was never true, was it?

It is also a difficult fact that "settlers" who wish to live in Judea or Samaria are in Israel, that is, until they are kicked-out by the Israeli gov't or "granted permission." How the Hell does that work?

Israel is the only country on the fucking planet that can win territory in a defensive war and then not be permitted to possess the land?

It is also an uncomfortable fact that Muslim Arabs living in Israel are not treated as "settlers" but as citizens...

...More, this particular segment would in vast majority prefer to live under Israeli flags than the marxists and theocrats of "palestine." It has everything to do with property rights they enjoy in Israel unavailable to them under the totalitarian marxists and theocrats of "palestine."

There is far, far more to your "simple" facts that you realize.

Right you are Right Guy. The bottom line: Best to...

2012-01-27T13:48:02.682-06:00
Right you are Right Guy. The bottom line: Best to side with the side that's aligned with Western Civilization.

You cannot separate the fact that Israel is an outpost of civilization admist a horde of barbarian lands.

I just saw a statistic, 2/3rds of all Egyptians are married to their 1st or 2nd cousins. That's disgusting!!!

And 9 out of 10 Egyptian women have suffered through female genital mutilation.

And we're supposed to put them on the same level as the Israelis?

Piss on that Gary!

And the Jews were pushed out at one time and someo...

2012-01-27T13:34:11.039-06:00
And the Jews were pushed out at one time and someone else took over. How far do we have to go back? Someone at some time is getting screwed and it seems all cultures go through it. You're just picking sides based on one point in a timeline.

**** you have been caught-out here on other occas...

2012-01-27T12:42:45.756-06:00
**** you have been caught-out here on other occasions lying your sweet fat ass off. ****

"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence."

- - - John Adams

Ran, any HONEST person can look up the facts for themselves.

Block by block for decades Israel has been growing their nation by taking the PRIVATE PROPERTY of other people and re-distributing it to those the government favors.

These are simple facts that even Israel will agree with. Israel has taken the land and they want their settlers to keep it.

I am sorry that FACTS upset you, but even Israel is happy with this program.

Sorry to say, Gary, but it's one sample of tyr...

2012-01-27T12:33:22.719-06:00
Sorry to say, Gary, but it's one sample of tyranny. One. You have to extrapolate from one to "prove" multiple, a logical fallacy by which you are therefor what Chuck called you - a filthy fucking liar.

OK. Perhaps you shower. But you have to admit - you have been caught-out here on other occasions lying your sweet fat ass off.

I can site better examples of tyranny - the chief flaw of Government, Israel's included.

As to the single example you've cited, it is not a support for your conclusion that "neither side wants peace." In the spirit of "never ascribe to malice what is caused by incompetence," I'll chalk it up to the fact that it's a topic about which you know sweet fuck all.

**** you're also a filthy fucking liar **** ...

2012-01-27T12:04:17.711-06:00
**** you're also a filthy fucking liar ****

I present FACTS. Non-thinkers use insults to support their position.

Chuckie, I know you have no interest in facts, but visit the web-site below.

The site belongs to Christian Palestinian Daoud Nassar. His family has been farming his land for 100 years, and he has spent most of his adult life fighting Israel in court to keep his PRIVATE PROPERTY from being confiscated and the wealth re-distributed to others.

http://www.fotonna.org/index.html

Yeah Jim. That was the absolute best. Romney c...

2012-01-27T12:01:42.348-06:00
Yeah Jim. That was the absolute best.

Romney could've given a pussy-footin' answer so as to satisfy the guy. Instead he chose to purposel insult him. I loved it!

"To this day Israel keeps confiscating the...

2012-01-27T11:51:44.480-06:00
"To this day Israel keeps confiscating the individual PRIVATE PROPERTY of Christian and Muslim Arabs and re-distributing the wealth of the buildings, land and farms to Jewish settlers."

So in addition to being crazy as a shithouse rat, you're also a filthy fucking liar. Great.

Comments on Libertarian Republican: Romney on Israel and the Middle East: Peace throug...

Mittens gets this one right, of course. But why...

Typical wishful thinking. What a turd.

In FL, Santorum is in last place. Gingrich trails...

So, why don't we just keep our nose out of it ...

Eric, Laugh all you want. I wasn't the cowar...

Tom, every single poll now has Romney ahead by at ...

The guy has been offered millions of dollars for h...

If you can't figure out property rights and fr...

So

***** In our world that is the exception rather th...

In our world that is the exception rather than the...

Right Guy, this is the example I use. A person bo...

Interesting point Gary. I wonder how it has worked...

**** When Hussein lost his stupid war, the land b...

Eric, Of course I'm still predicting that Gingrich will win Florida.I didn't make the prediction lightly, and I'm not going to change it just because a few Romney fangirls are getting their panties all moist fantasizing otherwise.

Are you still predicting that Romney will lose Flo...

Romney was lucky to get first draw on that questio...

NO GARY. That territory was held by "Jordan&...

Right you are Right Guy. The bottom line: Best to...

And the Jews were pushed out at one time and someo...

**** you have been caught-out here on other occas...

Sorry to say, Gary, but it's one sample of tyr...

**** you're also a filthy fucking liar **** ...

Yeah Jim. That was the absolute best. Romney c...

"To this day Israel keeps confiscating the...

Eric, Of course I'm still predicting that Gingrich will win Florida.

I didn't make the prediction lightly, and I'm not going to change it just because a few Romney fangirls are getting their panties all moist fantasizing otherwise.

you're also a filthy fucking liar ...