Wednesday, December 26, 2012

Gone to Texas

by Clifford F. Thies

Governor Moonbeam must be aghast! Didn't he tell the people of the state that all they had to do was "ask" the rich to "give" a little more for the privilege of being in California in order to solve the state's fiscal problems? Now we have yet another re-location. This one of the state's largest corporation. Chevron. Gone to Texas.

I guess they'll have to "ask" the rich to "give" yet a little more.

From KTVU News SF, Chevron moving 800 California jobs to Texas
Chevron Corp. is moving 800 jobs in the San Francisco Bay area to Texas. The shift of about a quarter of the petroleum giant's San Ramon headquarters staff will take place over two years.

The San Francisco Chronicle says the employees, most of them in technical positions dealing with information and advanced energy technologies, will be transferred to Houston.

Chevron was founded in California in 1879.
Just a matter of time before the entire corporate hq makes the switch...

20 comments:

jgeleff said...

Hallelujah!

Eric Dondero said...

So when will the pasta sauce companies leavy heavily regulated, high crime, Democrat-corruption, Philadelphia for Austin, Houston or Dallas? We're wating...

Rita said...

Note to the ones living in Texas: Have you notice the increasing CA liscense plates around here lately? I have and I'm not happy about them being here, either.

Charlie said...

What are you worried about Rita? Only the independent thinkers are leaving here. I'm the one who should be upset. You're state is taking all my voting allies LOL!

The Right Guy said...

Actually, it's a bad thing. What constitutes a conservative in CA would be a moderate in TX. They'll take their progressive ways with them and eventually make wherever they go like where they left.

Eric Dondero said...

They're not so much here in Houston. I think they're in central and west Texas.

jgeleff said...

We are working on just such a plan, Eric.

Charlie said...

"What constitutes a conservative in CA would be a moderate in TX" - RG

Actually my business is in the most conservative city in LA County, Glendora. The "conservatives" here are actually more libertarian. i can't tell you how many conversations I've had with older white guys who think the GOP needs to drop the culture war BS, and they would NEVER vote Democrat.

If anything they could give the libertarian leaning GOPers of Texas a boost.

The Right Guy said...

I have a BIL that lives in SJC, which is in Orange county. While he's more conservative than the rest of the nut jobs, he's not exactly an anti-tax libertarian either. In another other context he'd be a truman democrat. Not a bad thing, but not one of us. Look at it like this: Anyone that wasn't a left wing fruitcake and had a scintilla of common sense that lived in CA would have left already. What we have left now for the most part are the idiots that went along with the insanity for too long, no matter how libertarian they are. They may be good reasons for it in some cases, but complacency has to be near the top of the list.

Charlie said...

"Anyone that wasn't a left wing fruitcake and had a scintilla of common sense that lived in CA would have left already" - RG

I can see why you'd say that but it's not so simple. Family andf business ties as well as the standard of living in the upper income neighborhoods is hard to beat. Not to mention this state isn't as wacky as it's representatives would suggest. The herd mentality (which exists everywhere) makes the state look nuts. There are many Reagan democrats here who misguidedly won't vote for the shitty Republican candidates the state GOP runs because they can't hold their nose on the culture issues. Moreover when you look at the lkes of Meg Whitman, Carly Florina and the other back benchers who have ran, I can't say that I blame them. The CA GOPs total incompetence at courting the low information voter has let the fringe extreme of the Democratic Party take over this state.

We all know most voters are sheep and the Dems in my state are expert shepherds.

Charlie said...

PS Depending on what industry you're in Prop 13 can still make CA VERY favorable to specific businesses.

The Right Guy said...

Just their second amendment stance would keep me out permanently. Same with NY and I lived there 40 years. Ain't going back unless they dialed it back 50+ years.

I have two other BIL that live there. One in Santa Cruz and the other in West Hollywood. I love the weather in SC and the roads are great for riding the motorbike, but the politics, taxes, real estate and gun laws are nuts. Forget about west hollywood. The band played on there and still does.

For me it's not so much the cultural liberalism, but the progressive insanity. My BIL that lives in SC manages property. They developed some land for section 8 housing for SSD types. They couldn't cut down a tree on the property because the town said no. WTF? If I want to play paul bunyon on my land, who the fuck should say shit? They had to pay some outrageous sum to have the tree moved. It was like 25K or something like that. Give me 500 and a Stihl and problem solved.

I rest my case: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dChBN_zfofY

Charlie said...

"Politics, taxes, real estate and gun laws are nuts."

Yeah but it really depends on which rung you reside. Local politics are very city dependent and even crappy Meg Whitman got 40% of the vote and she was amazingly bad.

Also the Inland Empire and the OC aren't the Progressive hellhole that LA is. Real Estate is a winner if you know how to time and play the game. The charlatans in that industry actually do VERY well. And if you've been gifted a Prop 13 tax assessment for your biz/residential property that can more than offset the other taxes (which can be avoided easily with the right accounting advice)

I'm just saying there is a reason why so many stay in this state and just "circle the wagons" so to speak. I know I'll enjoy staying here until we fall in the ocean LOL! When I do find that right property I'll enjoy the benefit of a locked in low tax rate until I die. Barter and trade off the books and maybe make a low enough income to get some of them Gubment freebies! Consider it my form of silent protest :-)

Besides Magic Mountain is my favorite place in the world, I can't be more than a couple hours away LOL!

Charlie said...

And in regards to what you said about the tree...

Unless you're in the boonies aren'y the enviro-nuts everywhere??? I can't think of many places where property rights are what they used to be...

The Right Guy said...

You need to get out of CA. It's not like that everywhere else. As far as property taxes go, AZ is pretty cheap. Cheaper than Iowa, which was cheaper than NY. What would be 12K a year in NY would be half in Iowa and yet half again in AZ. 12K in NY isn't a big deal.

Eric Dondero said...

Charlie, the GOP has dropped the religious conservative agenda. You should have seen the Republican Party back in the 1980s. It was all Jerry Falwell, Ed Meese all the time. People have this fond memory of Ronald Reagan, me too. But he was right along with them on social conservatism.

Charlie said...

"Charlie, the GOP has dropped the religious conservative agenda." - Eric

The CA GOP apparently didn't get the memo. Every election cycle they throw out loser candidates while the party itself stands buy anti-abortion and anti-immigration stances that alienate the swing voters they need. They typically lose by 10% points so they need 5% plus 1 to close the gap and doubling down on "traditional families" and "anti-marijuana" positions ain't gonna get them there.

Check out flashreport.org, run by a former head of the state GOP. Those guys are in so much denial it's ridiculous. The electorate has shown a strong support for Prop 13 and an aversion to higher direct taxes for the most part. The last tax increase barely squeaked by in a demoralizing year for the GOP in regards to voter turnout. The CA GOP has to get their head out of their ass, embrace the liberty caucus and realize that the Hispanics that ACTUALLY VOTE can be brought to their side.

Sadly the state GOP is about to be out libertarian'd by the moderate, business friendly democrats who came into office under our new top 2 system. The day a Democrat supports deregulation, lower taxes and Marijuana legalization before a Republican (and that day is near) the state GOP might as well close up shop. Game Over.

Chuck said...

"while the party itself stands buy anti-abortion and anti-immigration stances that alienate the swing voters they need"

How original.

Killing children isn't an electoral winner. Most voters oppose the wanton slaughter of innocents. "Anti-immigration" is a gutless euphemism signifying nothing but runaway ILLEGAL immigration.

Try again, Charlie.

Charlie said...

RE:Chuck

I'm sorry to break it to you Chuck but the voters in CA are what they are. And while I recognize illegal immigration is a HUGE problem (seeing it first hand in neighborhoods near me) there is a difference between enforcing our sovereignty and being xenophobic.

The CA GOP is a total fail when framing the debate on immigration. Especially when illegal immigration hurts Hispanics the most. Most of the Americans of Latin descent I know can't stand the anchor baby illegals :-/

FINCHNEST13 said...

Southern California is more conservative (excluding LA and Hollyweird), but Northern California, where Chevron is, is definitely far left and going farther left. That has a great deal to do with why GOP candidates have a hard time winning. I always love to see those people who suggest that the GOP should change their stance on abortion and illegal immigration. Why should the GOP adopt the platforms the Dems already take? Part of the mess we're in is because of the GOP liberals that were elected in the East (Olympia Snowe, Scott Brown, etc.) and other than being called GOP and running as GOP candidates, they believe and act Democrat. Californians will Californicate Texas like they did in Colorado. Colorado used to be conservative, over the years more and more Californians moved to Colorado for the sports and the skiing, and in just a matter of a few decades Colorado's politics look like California's. Transplanted Californians are like the illegal immigrants from the south who claim to be here for jobs that they can't get in Mexico because of corruption, come into the US illegally then they try to make the US into Mexico, Californians don't like what's going on in California so they move to another state and start turning their newly adopted state into California.