Wednesday, November 14, 2012

Will Rick Perry's opposition to secession hurt his reelection chances?

Maybe Perry should listen to the people of the state before he spouts his mouth off. I for one would love to see it happen! You never know maybe we elect the next Governor that will do what the people of the state want for themselves. Remember they work for us not the other way around!-- Mark Harris, Comments

by Eric Dondero

And so it begins... Secession has now become a political issue. And according to some, Texas Governor Rick Perry may be on the wrong side of the growing nationwide, and certainly Texas-wide movement.

From CBS Local Houston, "Perry: Texas Will Not Secede From US":
More than 76,000 people have signed a petition on the “We the People” White House website for Texas to withdraw from the Union and start a new government after President Barack Obama was re-elected.

“The US continues to suffer economic difficulties stemming from the federal government’s neglect to reform domestic and foreign spending. … Given that the state of Texas maintains a balanced budget and is the 15th largest economy in the world, it is practically feasible for Texas to withdraw from the union, and to do so would protect it’s citizens’ standard of living and re-secure their rights and liberties in accordance with the original ideas and beliefs of our founding fathers which are no longer being reflected by the federal government,” the petition states.
Statement from Perry spokesperson:
Perry spokesperson Catherine Frazier tells CBS News that the governor “shares the frustrations many Americans have with our federal government,” but “believes in the greatness of our Union and nothing should be done to change it.”
76,000 in one week signed the petition? Now over 95,000 as of early this morning. How many will it be in 3 to 4 weeks time? 400,000? 500,000? That's a pretty healthy chunk of Texas voters, particularly within a Republican primary election.

Photo credits - Mediaite, flickr


Chuck said...


KN@PPSTER said...

No, it won't hurt his re-election chances. His statements so far have been more pro-secession than Sam Houston's.

Eric Dondero said...

Tom, he's backing away from that. That's why he's being criticized. Remember, Debra Medina got a healthy chunk of the primary vote against him in 2010. And she ran a very low budget campaign. A well-funded challenger from the Right, could give him a serious run for the nomination.

KN@PPSTER said...


Perry is backing away from his previous pro-secession statements, but each and every one of his statements is still more pro-secession than Sam Houston's.

Houston resigned as governor of Texas over secession. He thought it was the fuck-stupidest idea he'd ever heard.

Will said...

As a new resident of Texas, it will be interesting to see where Glenn Beck stands on secession. If he is on-board, passionate rhetoric will indeed stir up a lot of his fan base. The numbers are expanding as the article points out, and with strong, and popular voices leading the way, others will find courage to speak out and demand withdrawal from the US. Whether this has any impact is yet to be seen, but this could get pretty damn interesting.

Eric Dondero said...

Do you know this is headlining today at Drudge?

Wow. This secession thing is taking on a life of its own. Who would have ever predicted this?

Gary said...

#1) Perry has been in too long.

#2) There were not enough hangings after the last secession.

Will said...

"Do you know this is headlining today at Drudge?"
The headline at Drudge is a photo of a Hamas chimpanzee mascot putting out a car fire after Israelis bombed the shit out of it. Secession is farther down the page.

Eric Dondero said...

Will, it was headlining last hour.

jgeleff said...

Confirming the top mast headline at Drudge. I saw it.

texaslittleel said...

I have to agree with Eric on this one (amazing) and Perry goes the way of the political winds.

If enough Texans support seceding from the Union, he will flip flop and then promote the secession of Texas.

The question then is, would Texas seceding from the Union, be good for Texas?

Also, if Texas wanted to Secede from the Union, would the President and Congress allow it?
We are one of only 12 States that are in the Black financially. We supply 22 states with Natural Gas and food.

One of only three that actually have a growing populations, an expanding housing market.

Plus we are only one of three states that has a complete economy, with shipping ports, agriculture, technology, fuel et al.

Plus, as one of the few states that actually has a legal right to secede from the union after the Civil War, will we become a slave to the US because we are a necessity?

Will said...

Well, there goes any hope of Glenn Beck leading the way for Texans to secede. As of 10:47 am Pacific Standard time, Beck is adamant that secession is "unconstitutional." We will see... There are reasons I listen to him maybe twice a year.

Will said...

Now Beck is saying "Do not put your name on that list!" Screw him! I hope y'all signed the petitions I e-mailed to you in the past couple of days.

Chuck said...

How do you guys imagine Texas can "secede" from the United States? There's no legal way to do it. Texas could declare independence and then see how things turn out, I suppose.

Good luck with that.

ajnock1976 said...

Yahoo news now reports that secession petitions are coming in from every state.

What if we left the DC to fend for itself?

Secession is the most sincere form of limited government.

yours for liberty

Alan Turin

Eric Dondero said...

My dear Alan, how 'bout we give them Maryland too? And Hawaii and Vermont. New York, San Francisco and Chicago-land.

That will be the remnants of what's left of the USA after the secession movement triumphs.

Eric Dondero said...

texas little eel, I don't think we're in this alone. Almost certainly Oklahoma will join us. Most likely Louisiana. And probably Arkansas. That's a powerful geographical area.

You know the crazy-ass Alaskans will want to go too, their own way. And they should. Bet the Dakotas will want to leave, and can survive on their own given their oil wealth.

These will be fun times.

Chuck said...

" That's a powerful geographical area. "

Powerful compared to what?

Will said...

Hell, I'd be satisfied if NorCal, and southern Oregon would finally form the state of Jefferson, to start with.

Chuck said...

With what authority would such a thing be formed? How does this work?

Maybe I should get everyone in my house to sign a petition and we'll declare our yard a new county...or country even. Why not?

Will said...

How big is your yard, and what natural resources, other than grass, do you have?

Chuck said...

I'd have to take a shovel and start digging to find out. Sovereignty isn't determined by such trivialities anyway.

How big is Lichtenstein? Resources?

Is bugfuck crazy the new normal?

Holy shit. Life isn't a board game.

texaslittleel said...

Chuck, you posed a question that there is no Legal way for Texas to secede from the Union.

Let me pose it back to you. What would make it Illegal for Texas to secede from the Union?

What in our constitution gives the Federal Government that ability to hold a state in servitude until given permission to remove themselves from that servitude?

Is not statehood a voluntary association? And if we hold to the same animus, then our own government would never have any right to remove themselves from the likes of England in 1776?