Sunday, November 11, 2012

Now that Florida has been declared for Obama, should any right-minded conservative or libertarian ever donate to Red Cross or United Way again for Fla. Hurricane Relief?

Save your charitable contributions for the Red States

From Eric Dondero:

Via HotAir, "It’s official: Florida puts Obama at 332 electoral votes":
The Florida count kept flipping back and forth on a tiny margin between Romney and Obama on election night, but it didn’t matter once it became clear Obama was going to shoot past 270. It took four days but the tally is finally official, from the Associated Press:
President Barack Obama was declared the winner of Florida’s 29 electoral votes Saturday, ending a four-day count with a razor-thin margin that narrowly avoided an automatic recount that would have brought back memories of 2000. …

The Florida Secretary of State’s Office said that with almost 100 percent of the vote counted, Obama led Republican challenger Mitt Romney 50 percent to 49.1 percent, a difference of about 74,000 votes. That was over the half-percent margin where a computer recount would have been automatically ordered unless Romney had waived it.
I'm a former Floridian. Stationed in the Navy in Jacksonville. Graduated from Florida State University in Tallahassee. Love the State.

But you've got to now ask yourself, why would any conservative or libertarian in their right mind lend any assistance to Florida ever again for any hurricane or national disaster? Floridians have just voted to destroy the United States of America with socialism and thievery on an enormous scale through high taxation, and more Gestapo IRS agents on the government payroll.

Want to lend a hand for hurricane relief? Save your money for the Red States, like Mississippi, Louisiana or Texas.

79 comments:

Chuck said...

Not the whole state. Just the degenerate shitholes that elect democrats. Miami, Ft Lauderdale, Palm Beach, etc.

We should start an organization to put rattlesnakes in mailboxes there.

Eric Dondero said...

Chuck, I lived in Florida for a long time.

Trust me, there are socialist douchebags in Jacksonville, and Tallahassee, as well. The whole state is starting to get fucked. It's pitiful.

If you know a Floridian, ask them if they voted Obama. If they say "yes," tell them to Fuck off and die, and never speak to them again for the rest of your life. Simple as that.

Rational Nation USA said...

Is fuck and die your response to anyone and everyone who might differ with you Eric? The tough guy approach works sometime, sometime it doesn't. The key is in figuring our when and when not to use it.

But yeah, if you're only interested in preaching to the choir it works. And yeah you are right, socialism is self defeating. But telling people to fuck off and die, while making you feel good actually accomplishes very little, if anything. It likely works against you.

When feeling threatened haul out the heavy artillery. Right Eric?

Eric Dondero said...

Hey Rational USA (wish you posted under your real name, but since you don't we'll have to call you that), explain to me why I should give a flying fuck?

Are you paying me? Is anyone paying me? You want to take away my right to speak in a manner that I enjoy? This is my regular speech pattern. If you don't like it, than you can leave.

Eric Dondero said...

I don't think we're only "preaching to the choir" here at Libertarian Republican.

We had 142,000 Page Views two days ago, over 85,000 the day after that.

Tim Daniels most he ever had was 110,000 after Bin Laden.

So, don't you dare come over here to LR and accuse us of "preaching to the choir."

Eric Dondero said...

Take a look at the comments section for my article from the other day.

Over 1,100 comments. That's right. Have you ever heard of such a thing?

HotAir.com occasionally breaks 1,000 comments, but it's got to be something really huge.

Chuck said...

Less knows a lot about accomplishing things. That's why he posts at inward looking, circle jerk sites like his and LCR etc.

Influence. Behold.

You Paultards are creepy as hell, Less. No one but nutbag, hate-filled, Lewnatic types want anything to do with you. You're working to elect the left...and you have.

May you rot in hell.

Chuck said...

Eric, the next time one of these dickless tools like Less tell you to be quiet to attract people, remember one thing. Alan Fucking Grayson.

Eric Dondero said...

Oh-My-God!! Chuck, that was brilliant. You're right.

All these people who say extremism, and loud-mouthery doesn't get you anywhere, people just tune you out. Really?

Alan Grayson is a US Congressman today, precisely because of that style.

Rational Nation USA said...

@ Eric...

"... explain to me why I should give a flying fuck?"

Explain why we should give a flying fuck ads well.

"Are you paying me? Is anyone paying me? You want to take away my right to speak in a manner that I enjoy? This is my regular speech pattern."

Obviously Eric I am not paying you, not would I.

Nope Eric I do not want to take you free speech rights away, I'm Real big on free speech. Just don't think the way you choose to present it to the public is very effective. At least not if you want to convince the public to your way of thinking.

"I don't think we're only "preaching to the choir" here at Libertarian Republican.

We had 142,000 Page Views two days ago, over 85,000 the day after that.

Tim Daniels most he ever had was 110,000 after Bin Laden.

So, don't you dare come over here to LR and accuse us of "preaching to the choir."

Big choir ya have there Eric, and yes, many of them DISAGREE with you, a VERY GOOD thing. There is hope after all for humanity.

"Over 1,100 comments. That's right. Have you ever heard of such a thing?"

Quite impressed with your own importance aren't you Eric? Like Limbaugh you're just another big fat bag of hot air and hate.

"Less knows a lot about accomplishing things. That's why he posts at inward looking, circle jerk sites like his and LCR etc.

Influence. Behold.

You Paultards are creepy as hell, Less. No one but nutbag, hate-filled, Lewnatic types want anything to do with you. You're working to elect the left...and you have.

May you rot in hell."

Name is Les Asshat. And by the way, not being a religious sort I believe in neither hell or nirvana. But if there is a hell you definitely will be among the population someday.

Now enjoy your Sunday.

Rational Nation USA said...

And a PS Eric...

You can't hold a candle to Tim and LCR with respect to valid principles and the enunciation of said principles...

Chuck said...

No, Less. I'm one of the good people. I actually support America. You support only yourself. You're a jerkoff. You're on the other side. Evil enjoys your support. While pretending to give a shit about freedom, the only thing you've ever done with your pipsqueak voice is muddy the water. Cloud the differences between the better and the worse.

Brak appreciates your retarded support, Less. Sleep well, you rat.

Rational Nation USA said...

Hey, Oh Chuck the wise and intimidating, to use your hero's language in his open forum... Fuck off asshole.

You, as is Eric, part of the neo fascism that is rotting your party and your minds. Ie rational patriotic American don't stop it it will rot this REPUBLIC as well.

You remind me of McCarthyism, pathetic little worms that you are.

Eric Dondero said...

Hey Chuck, guess we're the only "neofascists" in the world that want to legalize marijuana, stop smoking bans, repeal seat belt laws, and abolish the IRS.

Gotta watch out for them "neofascists." They support too much libertarianism.

Chuck said...

"You remind me of McCarthyism"

Nevermind that McCarthy was right, and the State Department was teeming with Soviet Agents.

Typical of a jerkoff.

You were never among those who support America, Less. You were never one of us. You were just some some self-obsessed twerp masturbating in the corner.

Chuck said...

By the way, Less, if you're intimidated, that's your problem.

Brakabama appreciates your support, you dung beetle.

Rational Nation USA said...

Me intimidated? By an Asshat like you or Dondero? Not a fucking chance pussy. Using terms you understand.

What fricking lossers you are.

Chuck said...

I understand all terms, Less. I've forgotten more than a self-worshiping shit stain like you is ever going to know.

Now run back to your circle jerk and report.

Jesus Christ said...

Apparently McCarthy was right? Wow, you guys really do live in a vaccuum. No wonder you're taking this devastating loss so bad. You were actually shocked that straight middle-aged white guys with mustaches are an ignored minority.

Chuck said...

What was McCarthy wrong about, you subhuman piece of dogshit?

Tell everyone.

Will said...

I thought the new mantra was this: "We're under 50%. We cannot afford to fight each other. Bicker, yes. Quibble, of course. Bitch at each other from time to time. That's to be expected. But no more hatefilled vitriol amongst the wings of the libertarian movement."

I am deeply disappointed to say, I see no implementation of this new-found philosophy. Instead, all I see is the same hate filled vitriol. I used to call this "eating your own." Count me out! I am not a part of the "own."

Jesus Christ said...

I must've missed where the military was overrun with communists in the early 50s. Then again, you seem to have no fucking clue what a communist is, so your version of history is a bit different from reality.

Jesus Christ said...

Oh and your mother is a filthy cunt of a whore.

Charlie said...

Nice way to screw the many GOPers who live in Blue States.

One of the stupidest posts I've ever read on this blog. And that's saying something...

Chuck said...

"so your version of history is a bit different from reality. "

You wouldn't know "reality" if it bit you on the ass, half wit.

Leftists are the absolute scum of this earth.

Rational Nation USA said...

Coming from a retarded disgruntled assw wipe like you cHuckie Poo who probably has trouble finding your manhood, assuming you are indred a man, who's listening.

Chuck said...

" I used to call this "eating your own."

People who were never with us, were never "our own", Will.

You don't get it. These clowns were never on our side. They never will be. They don't even deserve the respect a partisan democrat is owed. They're saboteurs and nothing else.

Chuck said...

Gee, Less. Your obsession with me is flattering. Since your candidate won, why don't you run on back to your circle jerk now.

Jesus Christ said...

I get that you're upset chuck. The world has past you by. You've been proven wrong. It has to hurt.

Chuck said...

The truth is never passed by. (Past is a tense, shit for brains)

You vermin have no idea what's about to happen.

Enjoy this day, Grasshopper. It will not be a long one.

Will said...

Oh I get it, Les, that is why I said "count me out!" Never thought I'd see the day that a good, and decent man like Tim Daniel would be disparaged on the pages of LR. Since Tim started LCR, he has been an asset to various factions of the liberty movement. Early on, I was in correspondence with Tim a lot, and he always encouraged me to start my own blog. In fact, he occasionally took my long-winded comments, and posted them as commentary on the font page of LCR. The shit I see here is pretty weird, Les. I was encouraged, even a bit excited to see some changes. Hell, I even had a great phone conversation with Eric the other night, but now I see this. As I said before, I am deeply disappointed. By the way, I just signed up to follow your blog. I remember you from years before, and now, will be a regular reader.

Jesus Christ said...

Chuck, isn't that what you said about this last election? But go ahead and repeat the same mistakes. Go even more conservative. The results will be you are even more marginalized. And I'll still be laughing at you.

The Right Guy said...

You know Eric, your attitude reminds me of the Civil War. You had abolitionists and pro-expansion of slavery types (Don't forget the copperheads and butternuts too). I don't think we've had this kind of divisiveness since then.

Chuck said...

There is no "liberty movement" that matters if it isn't elected. If you think there is any member of any faction of a "liberty movement" in the democrat party, you are a deluded fool. Likewise, if you think someone in some fringe party is going to be elected to a position to change anything, you are a fool.

This is easy math. It's time for some of you people to grow up...or shut the fuck up and go away and never pretend you ever really gave a shit about anything greater than yourselves.

Begone. Good riddance.

Chuck said...

" I don't think we've had this kind of divisiveness since then. "

Mason-Dixon wasn't just a line. That was a very different struggle. Your point is apt, though. I can't really think of anything closer except maybe the 60s. Actually I think the late 60s (adjusted for demography)is a better analog to what we have going on now.

The Right Guy said...

Yeah, I get your point. So far this has been a non-violent struggle. The thing is, hippies were a more identifiable demographic. Now anyone could be on the other side of the issue and you wouldn't know, necessarily. In that way, it's like the civil war, brother against brother.

What bothers me most about all of this is that Obamacare isn't going away at all. They got a free pass in 2010 and now the die is cast. I mean how the fuck do you we have to pass it to know what is in it? Pelosi should be hung, drawn and quartered for just saying that, let alone being behind that legislation. In a sense chuck, a very small number of people have truly fucked things up and now we have more people thinking it was right. It's like I woke up in a strange land.

Chuck said...

To them that care to hear: Please listen!

Even though Brakabama is the shittiest excuse for a President in the history of the office, the left held together and reelected his worthless ass.

Meanwhile:

Even though Mitt Romney was probably the most qualified individual to run for that office since Eisenhower, his side didn't show up.
This can't be blamed on the democrats and it sure as shit can't be blamed on Mitt Romney. He did his job in spades. Nope. It was the work of other people. Planters. Self appointed guardians of "liberty" have reminded us for over a year that Mitt Romney was "the other". Like termites, these greasy pices of shit have dropped their little lines and made their vile little arguments AGAINST the only chance we fucking had.

And now the smoke has cleared.

Fuck You.

You know who you are. There is a shit storm on the horizon and it's going to rain on your proud, empty heads just as it will on everyone else. Remember your stupid pride then.

Eric Dondero said...

Will, what do you expect, when these guys call those of us who want to legalize drugs "neo-fascists." What do we do?

You can be libertarian down the line. Agree on everything. You dissent just a tiny bit on foreign policy, whoah nellie. You're no longer allowed to call yourself a libertarian in their eyes.

As if we're not getting beat up by leftists enough. Now we have to have left-libertarians come here and bash us, as well. Are they like colluding or something?

Eric Dondero said...

Now, back to the point of the post.

Let's all agree not to give any money any more to Hurricane relief or any other disaster relief in Blue States, and urge others to do the same.

Chuck said...

That "brother against brother" line is t.v. mini-series shit. hehe

People in the North hated people in the South back then and . That was what really came to a head.

It bears no resemblance to what's happening now. There was nothing like today's left then.

What we have now is manufactured strife. Created by leftists, for leftists.

Will said...

"Begone. Good riddance." Fuck you, you lowlife punk. All this hate filled bullshit from a Navy SEAL wannabe, who never had the balls to enlist. Instead, we get a bullshit excuse that goes, "I wanted to be a SEAL, but I met this girl... blah, blah blah! You didn't even have the guts to sign up for the Coast Guard! No, I take that back; the Coast Guard does good work, and would never put up with with a foul mouthed punk like you, and you probably couldn't even pass their physical fitness test. I'll tell you what asshole; there is no difference between you and the left!. Both of you are filled with hate, and rage, and think you are smarter than everyone else. Over the years, I tried to mitigate your disgusting rhetoric, by using diplomatic damage control. No more! You are nothing but a Nancy boy who sits at his computer to take out your shortcomings on others. You couldn't fight your way out of a wet paper bag! You think you are so clever, but in reality, like the left; you live in the aforementioned world of perennial infantilism. You're not the only who was affected by this election, but in your childish, narcissistic mind, the world is all about you.
Good riddance indeed, you god damn punk!

Chuck said...

Eric, how do you imagine you could redirect the money anyway? I joked about the snakes in mailboxes thing, but this a pretty childish subject to explore. It's pretty dark, too. Deny a little baby some milk because you don't like where they live?

Kinda sick, Buddy.

The Right Guy said...

Manufactured or otherwise, we have a tough road ahead.

Chuck said...

I have plenty of guts, Will, and I'd never shit my pants in public the way you just did.

Why did you change the subject from what I wrote about "the liberty movement" to dogging me for not enlisting when I was a teenager in a time of peace?

What's eating you? Would you like to disagree with something I've written? Personally, I don't think it takes much in the way of "guts" to refute what someone has written.

What was I wrong about, Will?

Correct me.

Chuck said...

"Manufactured or otherwise, we have a tough road ahead. "

Tougher than most can comprehend right now. The swelling will go down, but the loss is permanent for this generation.

Teach your children well.

Chuck said...

" In a sense chuck, a very small number of people have truly fucked things up and now we have more people thinking it was right. It's like I woke up in a strange land."

Such is the nature of leverage. I took way too much for granted and now curse myself for having not done more, though in hindsight, I really don't know what more I could've done. I joined the Republican Party.

Time to BE the change we seek.

Chuck said...

I'm still trying to figure out how it takes "guts" to sign up for the Coast Guard.

I suppose that idea rests on the presumption that being an agent of the government is some sort of prerequisite for manhood. That's a sad, statist brand of psychosis if you ask me.

But what do I know? I was never even a mailman. I simply spent my entire adult life feeding and clothing government workers.

Chuck said...

Who did you vote for, Will?

That should get us to the bottom of your angst real fast.

Who?

Show us your "guts". After all, I didn't join the Coast Guard or even the Post Office.

Who?

Chuck said...

For whom did you vote, Will?

Brag about it!

Chuck said...

For whom did Less vote?

Brag about it! Put your fucking name on it! Own it!

Chuck said...

I voted for Mitt Romney.

Chuck said...

Pride is Satan's fertilizer. Hope is the opposite of faith.

Rational Nation USA said...

"What we have now is manufactured strife. Created by leftists, for leftists."

Talk about SHIT for brains cHuckie Poo. And you have the audacity call yourself defenders of freedom of thought, speech, and liberty.? What a pile of crap. You are nothing but neo fascist shithead.

And believe me I am damn glad I never knew the shit and hate you apparently know and claim to have forgotten.

Chuck said...

Your pain is understandable, Less. You realize what you've been a part of. I'd be ashamed too.

Remind us for whom you voted, Less.

Put your name on it. Own it. Be honest.

Chuck said...

I voted for a good man named Mitt Romney. The man self-stroking shitbags like you labeled "mittens".

Who did you support, Less?

Chuck said...

What blow did you strike for liberty, Less?

Chuck said...

You self righteous motherfuckers make me sick. Great in a talk. Absent in a fight.

Say hello to hell, jackass. Enjoy what you've done...out of nothing more noble than spite.

I forgive you. Reality won't forgive any of us for what you people have done.

Chuck said...

"Name is Les Asshat."

How rude of me. Everyone say a big hello to Les Asshat. Thanks for joining us, Les Asshat.

Chuck said...

Waitaminit! Is that French? As in les Asshat? Like Prince or Madonna? Are you truly "The Asshat"?

Will said...

How fucking pathetic can you get, Chuck? You think you are some sort of heoric patriot because you voted for Romney? How fucking dare you ask who I voted for? Of course I voted not only for Romney, but I voted a straight Republican ticket. Did you think for one fucking second I voted for the commie? Again Chuck, this election is not about you. I have a lot at stake, and so do millions of other Americans. You're not the only one. Grow up, junior! Save your hate for the lefties.

You know, it isn't as though you are surrounded by leftists. You live in a conservative corner, where people are hard working, and generally have some semblance of civility. Try living in Oregon, where every fucking day of the year, I am surrounded by smug, sanctimonious leftists, with highly questionable bathing habits, hippies, hipsters, radical sixties feminists, and western civilization hating commie professors. Living in your locale certainly doesn't mitigate the disaster that is happening in this country, but at least you don't have salt rubbed into your wounds.

Eric Dondero said...

Yes, let's do save our hatred for the lefties.

Chuck, Will, Les, question for all three of y'all?

How many Democrats have you told to fuck off today?

Ya'll are sitting here beating up on each. But I bet not a one of you has nasty to a Dem today.

Surely there's one or two in your lives you can call up and tell to fuck off. Tell anyone you know who voted for Obama that you never wish to speak to them again for the rest of your life.

Chuck, Will, Les lay off each other. Get off this comment thread pick up the goddamaned phone and tell a Democrat to fuck off.

Chuck said...

"You think you are some sort of heoric patriot because you voted for Romney"

Making shit up doesn't make it true, Will.

If you took offense? Why? Why did you take it personally?

On whose behalf were you offended?

You voted for Romney? Great. You did the least you could. So did I. What I have no stomach for are these assholes who said from the get that it didn't matter.

Chuck said...

Less is among them.

Chuck said...

Eric, these "lefties" are a minority. We've allowed the left to impute their "race,class,gender" horse crap onto us. We have to throw it off or we're dead.

Eric Dondero said...

No, they're not the minority Chuck. Obviously, they're the majority. All those polls you always hear about "40% of America is conservative, 21% is liberal." Bullshit. They've got the numbers reversed.

Will said...

True story, Eric: I did tell a hippie to piss off in the parking lot at the store. Even funnier, I bought five or six items at the store, and the cashier asked if I wanted to donate to a disabled veterans cause. I said, "you bet your ass, young man, I am veteran." So I kicked in twenty bucks. He then asked, "do you need help out with your items, sir?" (at least he said sir! Very uncommon where I live) I gave him my "get off my lawn" look, and said in a gruff voice, " I just told you son, I'm a vet!" He looked like he didn't know whether to shit, run, or go blind. I laughed like hell and said, "I'm just shitin' ya man! Don't worry." He still had a half hearted grin though.

Eric Dondero said...

LOL Will. Good story.

Chuck said...

Will,
What group should you and I join together as a means of saving our country?

I'll join. Lead and I'll follow.

Chuck said...

For whom did Less vote?

Chuck said...

I read no praises of him from either Will or Less. I'd wager I could go back and read their respective assessments and they would be quite dismissive of the nominee who lost last week.

Cuz its hip.

Fuck you. Very much.

Rational Nation USA said...

@ Eric...

" Les, question for all three of y'all?

How many Democrats have you told to fuck off today?"

Maybe it's my upbringing or just a respect for each individual but I don't tell a dEmocrat to fuck off just because they are a democrat. I only do that only after a democrat (progressive) tells me that. And Eric I have been called a racist, a bigot,a fucking shithead, asshole, Nazi, and a bunch of other things Chuck hasn't yet called me. All because I advocate Rand, real capitalism, self sufficiency, and effective constitutional government. But not everything democrats say is shit, some actually have constructive ideas. I choose to listen to the constructive and dismiss the BS. Just as I do with rEpublicans.

And Chuck, not that it any of your goddamn business but I suppoetrf Gary Johnson. And please don't give me a pile of bullshit that is was a vote for Obama. Massachusetts were I live is so goddamn blue it just didn't matter.

I voted my convictions, and Mittens the Human Flipper just didn't cut it. I blame the goddamn shithead rEpublican party for being so goddamn stupid to have nominated McCain and Romney. It's over, either figure out what the party you support blindly needs to do to win or ya'll WILL become irrelevant.

Thanks for the time Eric, last one on this thread as requested. I won't respond to Chucks further insults. I went low enough already in response and any reasonably sane person knows what Chuck is. I need say no more.

Chuck said...

"I voted my convictions"

You voted for yourself. You jerked off.

Thanks.

Chuck said...

Imagine if every dumbass like you had voted for their country instead of themselves.

Think about that this spring when you're paying more for everything it takes to live.

Thanks again.

Eric Dondero said...

Well, Les, than I guess we become irrelevant. Que sera, sera.

I honestly cannot thing of a better candidate.

Chuck said...

"Nazi, and a bunch of other things Chuck hasn't yet called me."

Even the Nazis believed in something greater than themselves. You aren't even worthy of the title Nazi. They were evil, but at least they were something. You're an earthworm. Just along for the ride.

Rational Nation USA said...

Will, thanks for signing on to RN USA. Anytime you would like feel free shoot me an email. Perhaps we can can chat someday.

And yeah, Tim has done a lot, he gave me a lot of encouragement when I started blogging as well. He's a real sharp guy, and decent as well.

Thanks again Will.

Weldon Goree said...

Depends. If your goal is to convince them to vote Republican, then possibly yes, along with some sort of awareness campaign that says "I want you to vote Republican now that I've saved your ass".

If your goal is for there to be no (or many fewer) Floridans, no.

Incidentally, the Red Cross seems like a perfect thing for a libertarian to donate to: if you believe it necessarily will respond to a disaster better than the public sector, give it the resources it needs to prove that. Like I said in another thread: the only way to actually devolve power from the Federal government is for states, localities, and the private sector to actually start solving problems better than the Federal government does, rather than just bitching about how badly the Federal government solves them.

But, like I also said there, responsibility is very difficult to re-learn once it's been given up.

Rational Nation USA said...

LMAO Chuckie Girl...

jgeleff said...

True story....

A friend got a telemarketer calling on his cell phone who was asking for donations for Hurricane Sandy victims in NJ and NY, and he said, "Uh, they both voted for Obama. Fuck 'em, let the government take care of them. I'm already paying for them, so they don't need more of my money. Good day."