Saturday, November 17, 2012

Daily KOS spies Libertarian vote-siphoning

by Clifford F. Thies

The left-Democrat Daily KOS notices that, in nine races, the Libertarian candidate garnered the margin of difference between the winning Democrat (necessarily receiving less than 50 percent of the vote) and the Republican. Among these are two U.S. Senate races and one Gubernatorial race.

One of the two U.S Senate races and the one Gubernatorial race identified by Daily KOS are Montana races. Yes, our side should have won each of those races. But, we have to better connect with the libertarian sensibilities of the Rocky Mountain west.

In the case of the Indiana U.S. Senate race, the Democrat got almost 50 percent of the vote. Almost all of those who voted Libertarian would have had to switch to the Republican. A better explanation of what happened in this Senate race is that the Republican said something insensitive to women who are victimized by rape. A similar (but even worse) thing happened in Senate race in Missouri. In both of these races, the Republican's appeal to both fellow Republicans and to independents fell precipitously upon their misstatements, with these voters shifting both to Democrat and to the Libertarian.

Most prominent among the six Congressional races highlighted by Daily KOS was the Utah race in which Mia Love came this close to upsetting the incumbent Democrat, but failed because of vote siphoning. Ditto the race in Arizona where a similarly melatonin-rich Republican came up short. I'm just going to state the obvious one time: What's up with the Libertarian Party providing an outlet for people who have problems voting for Black Republicans?


jgeleff said...

The problem with this line of thinking is that you're assuming that every single Libertarian vote would go to the GOP. I hate to tell you that Libertarians have had DEEP differences with the statist GOP for a long time, so this theory just doesn't hold water. It does nothing more than divert from the REAL problem in the GOP; it's stuck in the 1950's.

Eric Dondero said...

Jerry, I'm not sure being stuck in the 1950s is such a bad thing. That was an era when people still loved American, and loved capitalism while despising communism.

Sure on the social front, it sucks. But on economics, the 1950s was a far better period for America than 2012.

Did we have 47 million on food stamps in the 1950s?

Chuck said...

"Libertarians have had DEEP differences with the statist GOP for a long time,"

Yes. Because they care much more about being good members of their fucking Star Trek convention boutique of a movement than they do about the future of their country.

What was wrong with the Republican Party in the 50's, by the way? What did Eisenhower do wrong?

Will said...

Chuck has a point. This interview with Barry Goldwater took place in 1986:
Kolbe: You've served under seven presidents. How do you rate them?

Goldwater: I'd put Eisenhower first.

Kolbe: Why?

Goldwater: He was a man who made decisions. He was a lot like Harry Truman, who I think will be the best president of this century. You never had any doubt as to where he stood. You might disagree with him. Eisenhower was pretty much the same way as Truman, and Eisenhower had a wonderful ability to get along with people. As time goes by, more and more people realize that he was a hell of a good president. At first, they didn't look at him that way.

Fill interview:

jgeleff said...

What I meant was that this is a very different political climate than the '50's, but they're behaving like it isn't. Back then, there was a majority of politicians who looked out for the good of the country, not just their ideology. They also had a better understanding of economics than today's politician. Not that they weren't greedy assholes like today's crop, but they knew where to draw the line, when too much was too much.

Chuck said...

With all due respect, Jerry, one didn't need much of an understanding of economics in the 50's. The rest of the civilized world had been flattened. We reaped an enormous benefit from that.

Chuck said...

The electorate in this country isn't pro abortion. They aren't nearly as heathen as the pop culture would have you believe.

The biggest blockbusters in this country are still rated G.