Tuesday, April 10, 2012

If not for George W. Bush, there'd be no Chris Christie

"Government's telling them stop dreaming, stop striving, we'll take care of you. We're turning into a paternalistic entitlement society. That will not just bankrupt us financially, it will bankrupt us morally. We'll have a bunch of people sitting on a couch waiting for their next government check," -- Governor Christie, NY Historical Society conference

From NJ.com, "Gov. Christie: Nation turning into 'people sitting on a couch waiting for their next government check'":
Christie and Bush kicked off a day-long conference on pro-growth tax policy run by the President George W. Bush Institute, a group that Bush said allows him to engage in public policy issues behind the scenes.
Bush to Christie:
Bush said the topic of the conference is how to grow the private sector. He introduced Christie by complimenting his "enormous personality" and "belief in the individual," saying even Texans had taken note of the governor.

"We admire the courageous stance you take," said Bush, who nominated Christie to be U.S. Attorney.
Christie to Bush:
"I was a proud member of the Bush administration for seven years," Christie said, later adding that Bush "inspired a whole new generation of conservative Republican leaders."
Note - Speakers also included Steve Forbes and Congressman Paul Ryan.

Editor's note - LibertarianRepublican.net originated as the website Libertarians for Bush in 2004 (MainstreamLibertarian.com til 2008). And we were behind Chris Christie, very early on. He is now arguably one of America's most libertarian governors.

11 comments:

Ran / SVP said...

"If not for George W. Bush, there'd be no Chris Christie...He is now arguably one of America's most libertarian governors."

Arguably? But one must observe the relative and absolute scales.

Between Sohail Mohammed on the SCNJ and Christie's anti-2A philosophy, Chris' "libertarian" creds aren't exactly awesome by L-R's own standards. He's no Gary Johnson.

Granted, in a sea of NE liberals and marxists Christie is a breath of fresh air. CC's frank talk, too, especially in a cluster of timid NE girlie-men. A lot to admire in Christie.

Here's the thing Eric: Individual Liberty and powerful, expensive government are incompatible. Bush was weak on economic liberty and a near disaster growing government. Our buddy Gary is exactly on-point when he points to Bush and liberal Republicans as anti-libertarian.

I'll believe Chris Christie is a libertarian when we see his demands to the NJ Congress that it shrinks it's State bureaucracy;
...When NJ stands-up to the Feds and the EPA;
...When Christie pushes to reduce NJ's anti-Second Amendment failings;
...When Christie makes constitutional-conservatives and libertarian apointments to the SCNJ.

The notion that Christie has "libertarian" credentials will always be a difficult argument to make until we see something closer to a State version of Ron Paul on local issues from Christie.

Chuck said...

"The notion that Christie has "libertarian" credentials will always be a difficult argument to make until we see something closer to a State version of Ron Paul on local issues from Christie."

In New Jersey? Surely you jest. It's a crime to pump your own gas in that godforsaken shit hole of a State. They have to start somewhere.

Chuck said...

Or in other words: Libertarian isn't a species. It's a relative term. As soon as you turn the term into something absolute, it becomes a meaningless abstraction.

ajnock1976 said...

Christie does deserve kudos, but the biggest political winners of W are: 1. The Democrat Congress from 2006-10; 2. Harry Reid as Senate leader; 3. Barack Obama as president.

None of these political winners would have won BUT FOR W's presidency.

The gift that keeps on giving.

yours for liberty

Alan Turin

Chuck said...

Always the sniveling cunt.

Stay you, shitbag! Don't you go changin'!

Ran / SVP said...

Alan's points about Congress, Reid and Obama being the product of W's failed conservative-libertarian domestic policy leadership are valid. Even WF Buckley bailed on the Iraq deal. The final nail in Bush' "compassionate conservatism" box was his caving to Hank Paulson... (who should have been arrested and tried on charges of treason IMHO.)

(Which raises a question about L-R's early "libertarian" support of Dubbya. What gives with that?)

jgeleff said...

""If not for George W. Bush, there'd be no Chris Christie"

Are you saying that Christie ate GWB?

Chuck said...

"Alan's points about Congress, Reid and Obama being the product of W's failed conservative-libertarian domestic policy leadership are valid."

Only if you find the rhetoric more "valid" than the actual history. Turdin certainly does, but then he's a shit-eating, frustrated paultard. He makes sense in his own sick, pathetic way. People who should know better...not so much.

Ran / SVP said...

Not just me, Chuck. Millions of Republicans (and former Republicans) agree with Alan on his point.

No Child Left Behind. Medicare Part D. Department of Homeland "Security." Harriet Meyers. The Southern border, Ramos & Compean. Freddie Mae Mac Fannie. The huge expansion of debt.

Bush was at heart a good man, and got some things right - but he was clueless about some very dangerous threats to our private liberties: the cost of government and the encroaching powers of government and the invasion by literally millions of foreign workers into our borders, just for starters.

Contrast the Congressional disaster of 2006 with the tsunami of 2010. If Alan was wrong about Republican dissatisfaction and electoral apathy and/or defection, then please explain the difference in these two elections?

Chuck said...

You know your verses and your heroes, but you never get into the policies themselves.

Bush never threatened your "private liberties" (whatever you imagine those to be).

Compared to most of his predecessors back to Hoover, he was a saint.

"and the invasion by literally millions of foreign workers into our borders, just for starters."

Your problem is the lies you've been trained to believe, Ran. Was illegal immigration under Bush really high or really, really low?

Read. Get back to me. Privately if you must.

Chuck said...

BTW: How can any "worker" be a drain on an economy?

How does a fewer number of workers help said economy's GDP?

What do I know? I'm just a libertarian who doesn't want to see this world enter a totalitarian age.