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Sunday, November 6, 2011

Ron Paul on Fox News, endorse the eventual GOP nominee?

"Probably not..."

From Fox News, Chris Wallace, Sunday Morning:
Paul was asked whether he would support the Republican nominee for president if it was not him.

Probably not unless I get to talk to them and find out what they believe in."

[3rd party or independent run?] “I have no intention of doing that..."
Editor's note - He was saying pretty much the same thing "no intention" in 1986/87 to the Texas media, right before he jumped ship to the Libertarian Party.

32 comments:

Texas Little El said...

Eric, are you still stinging about running against Ron Paul in his home district and your attempt lasted all of two weeks?

My God, get a life Dondero.

Just to remind everyone, Eric is a notorious liar. He says, "I am the guy that got Ron Paul elected to Congress in 1996. I can and will defeat him in 2008."

His insider info had Rep Paul dropping out in February of 2008 but Paul didn't actually quit the race until June 13th, 2008.

Of course, Eric's buddy and presidential candidate quit in Jan 30th, 2008.

I am declaring for Congress against Ron Paul in Texas CD-14
By ericdondero Posted in Archived — Comments (235) / Email this page » / Leave a comment »

Good morning,
I am making this announcement on my favorite website RedState.com. Many of you here have urged me to take this course. And now, after last night's GOP Presidential debate, I've decided to move ahead with my plans.
I have spent the early morning scanning the major political blogs, and news sites. It's unanimous. Ron Paul got slammed by Rudy Giuliani last night for suggesting that we - the United States of America - are to blame for the attacks on 9/11. He even had the audacity to cite Osama bin Laden.
While everyone is hailing this as a "Great moment" for Rudy Giuliani, I think just as importantly, it was a horrible moment for Ron Paul. My former boss looked like a complete nutcase. He looked frail. His hands shaked. He showed his age. He was completely unprepared for Giuliani's romping response.
Is this the man that should be representing South Texas Congressional District 14 in the US Congress?
I think not.
I am calling on Ron Paul to resign his seat, sooner rather than later. Otherwise Congressional District 14 voters from Victoria to Galveston will appear to be endorsing his treachorous, and near treasonous views on foreign policy.
I am sure I speak for many CD 14 voters, and certainly the vast majority of CD 14 Republicans, when I say, Ron Paul, it's time for you to exit the stage.
I am calling on the three to four Republican individuals who have expressed an interest in this Congressional seat, and challenging Ron Paul in the primary, to now enter the race.
Many are aware that libertarian conservative Friendswood Councilman Peden has suggested he would run. Bobby Eberle of GOPUSA, and former Texas YR Chairman also has been mentioned. Even former Congressman Steve Stockman now lives in this CD.
I would back any of the three, particularly Bobby.
But if any of them hesitates to come out in the coming weeks, I will officially declare against my former boss. I will not have nearly the amount of money that Ron Paul will have for the primary challenge. But I do have the most kick-ass grass roots experience and resume of any Republican political activist in the country. I am the very person who got Ron Paul elected to Congress in 1996 as his Campaign Coordinator. I know what it takes. I know every inch of Texas CD 14 like the back of my hand.
Some other resume highlights:
Fluent in Spanish (our Distict is fully 40% Hispanic)
I speak 10 to 15 other languages
US Navy Veteran, (hon.)
20-year Federal Appointee, Selective Service Board, Houston Region
VFW & American Legion Member
Author of two books on World Travel
Traveled to 30 nations on 5 continents
Founder, Republican Liberty Caucus
Fmr. Libertarian Party National Committeeman
FSU Graduate (Political Science)
Homeowner and 12-year resident of Angleton, Texas in the heart of CD 14 (Brazoria County seat 40 miles south of Houston)
I am this morning, declaring my candidacy for Congress in the GOP primaries against Ron Paul. If he does not resign his seat, and if another Republican candidate does not declare against him, I will run a balls-to-the-wall campaign for Congress in Texas CD 14.
I am the guy that got Ron Paul elected to Congress in 1996. I can and will defeat him in 2008.

Texas Little El said...

Just as an FYI Eric, there seems to be a couple of people with MUCH higher IQ's than you have, that agree with Rep Paul on his foreign policy.

One of them actually taught at West Point Naval and was a professor at MIT.

So don't discount him to readily, he is MUCH smarter than you will ever be.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/11/foreign-policy-experts-agree-with-ron-pauls-controversial-foreign-policy/#

Jarod said...

DONDEROOOOOOOOOOOO!

Eric Dondero said...

Fine. There are people that agree with Ron Paul on foreign policy, more power to them.

There are also people who disagree with Ron Paul on foreign policy. And we call ourselves LIBERTARIANS.

We take the Islamist threat to our civil liberties quite seriously. Geez, call us nuts, but we just don't want our wives/girlfriends to be forced to wear an ugly black burqa from head to toe.

Texas El do you have a wife or girlfriend? (And no, the sheep in the farm field on the other side of the road that you bone every other day doesn't count.)

Eric Dondero said...

Texas El, I noticed you had nothing to say on the Charlie Hebdo bombing?

Your thoughts?

Did the Islamist do this cause we Americans have Troops on Saudi soil?

Texas Little El said...

Yes I married, with two children. I spoke at the capital about Gardasil.

And Eric, you stopped being anything close to a Libertarian a long time ago.

Your attempts to exact revenge on Rep. Paul is indicative of that.

You promoting Giuliani as anything even remotely close to Libertarian is an example of how far off base you have become.

You want to be left alone to run your life as you please but you don't see the attempts of our government control other peoples or nations as wrong.

Whom are we to force any nation to be exactly like us as a nation.

In the recent news, did you cheer or jeer when the police officer shot a videographer with a rubber bullet with no provocation?

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/314019

You seem to think that anyone NOT an American is less human than anyone else. That torture is acceptable. That Muslims must be exterminated.

That isn't the attitude of Live and Let Live that Libertarians believe in.

Do you honestly think that we as a nation will allow sharia law to come into existence in our borders without a war on the very government that attempts to enforce it?

And as usual, you will pick one thing that I have written and attempt to pick away at it.

Stop hiding behind the veneer that you are a libertarian, Eric. You are a statist authoritarian. Nothing more.

Texas Little El said...

And I condone this violence by anyone that thinks that violence is the first act that should be taken.

Violence should ALWAYS be the method of last resort when dealing with a problem.

Far to many have the mentality that if they don't do what they are told, we should attack.

And those that committed this Heinous act should be put on trial and locked up indefinitely.

I hold the same contempt for those that would injure someone else whether they be Jew, Muslim, Christian, Taoist, Daoist, Atheist, black, white, latino, oriental etc.

Whether they be the deranged Muslim that doesn't like a cartoon of Mohamed depicted in the "wrong fashion", the idiot Christian that firebombs a clinic, or the militant Jew that thinks it is okay to steal someone else' land.

Jarod said...

The disgruntled let-go employee attacks his former employer.

Eric Dondero said...

Where's the attack on Ron Paul. This is just reporting what Fox News said.

I praise Ron Paul for his opposition to seat belt laws, his support for free market economics, and his support for drug legalization.

Ron, YOU ARE GREAT ON THOSE ISSUES.

Fan-fucking-tastic!

Eric Dondero said...

Dudes, I love the Libertarian Party. They have a proper role to play in American politics. My best friend is a big LP member.

If Ron chooses to go that route, more power to him. That's not a diss.

Texas Little El said...

Eric, if you were just reporting what was being said, that would be one thing. But far to many times I have I seen a positive piece about Ron Paul, that you agree with him but you have to add at the end:

"We agree with Mr. Paul on this issue but think he sucks hind tit on his Foreign Policy."

Yes, I over dramatized that, but if YOU are just reporting the news, why even have that on the end?

Don't pretend you are impartial. Your anger against Rep. Paul comes through loud and clear all the time. You aren't fooling anyone.

And OMG.... don't even pretend you are a Libertarian....we definitely know you aren't that either.

Texas Little El said...

And as usual, I asked Eric a question and he ignored it, he asks me one in return and I answer it.

Typical Donderoism.

Texas Little El said...

Also interesting that ONLY people that believe the way that you do about Foreign Policy are Libertarians yet:

Christopher Preble, vice president for defense and foreign policy studies at the Cato Institute, is also another foreign policy expert who agrees that the United States is extraordinarily secure due to its geography and nuclear weapons, and doesn’t need a huge global presence.

And here I thought the Cato Institute was a Libertarian think tank.

Oh, wait!!!! It is!!!!!
NEVER MIND

Eric won't admit he is wrong.....gotcha

Eric Dondero said...

Tell me, how do you define someone on the political spectrum who supports:

Legalizing drugs, legalized prostitution, gambling, free speech rights in the extreme, ending political correctness, repealing affirmative action, swingers rights, titty bars, topless beaches, lowering the drinking age, abolishing the IRS, ending foreign aid, returning to a gold standard, abolishing EPA, deregulation, privatization, and opposes Islamism and Sharia Law?

I want you to tell me that such a person is "not" a libertarian.

Eric Dondero said...

Oh, I'll say it for the record:

RON PAUL SUCKS HIND TIT ON FOREIGN POLICY.

I'll elaborate. It's hard to imagine getting any worse than Ron Paul on foreign policy views. He basically is a white flag waver. He's fully ready to hand our country to Islamists. He's worse than Kucinich and almost, but not quite as bad as Code Pink.

And please do quote me on that all over the internet.

Here's my telephone number for verification if anyone wants to make sure that this is really me saying it:

979-848-4575

Again, that's 979-848-4575

Eric Dondero said...

I find it hilarious that you cannot seem to utter the word "Islamist." We're not talking about "anybody" here. We're talking about a very specific terrorist act done by followers of Islam.

Do you or do you not condemn Islamism? Don't give me some deflective answer like "I condemn all acts of violence, blah, blah, blah, blah, fucking blah."

Specifically, do you condemn ISLAMIC violence against the West?

ajnock1976 said...

Libertarianism in politics has many definitions.

The non-agression/non-initiation of force is a good starting place.

A softer one is to say that individual freedom is the highest political virtue for a libertarian.

What Eric lies about is that the application of the foregoing leads one directly to a foreign policy of non-intervention.

YAF, a conservative youth group, still cites The History of the Conservative Movement by Nash.

Ch. 1 is the "Revolt of the Libertarians" and it all about us rejecting the Cold War of the Buckley Right in the 1950's.

Historically & logically libertarians advocate the traditonal US foreign policy of not meddling in overseas politics.

Ron Paul is the libetarian in this race. Eric HATES this, so he lies or distorts or hypes against Ron Paul.

It's pathetic.

yours for liberty


Alan Turin

Eric Dondero said...

The Libertarian Movement of the 1950s and 60s was decidedly Pro-Military and Anti-Communist. Very early leaders of the libertarian movement included: Ayn Rand, Milton Friedman, Barry Goldwater, Frank Meyers, and Frederich Hayek. Most, if not all of them supported Ronald Reagan for President because of his staunch Anti-Communism.

However, if you had to pick one single individual identified as the "founder" of the moderat libertarian political movement, that would be Dana Rohrabacher. Dana was Chairman of the "Libertarian Caucus" of YAF in the 1960s. He was most certainly Pro-Military, and at the time Pro-War against Communism.

Leftwingers led by Murray Rothbard and Justin Raimondo infiltrated our libertarian movement on and about 1973/74. They stole control of the Libertarian Party Platform Comm. and whitewashed any references to pro-defense.

Texas Little El said...

Sorry Eric, your definition of a TRUE Libertarian is so far off base, that most will see it for the lie that it is.

Again, I ask the question, "Do you honestly think that we as a nation will allow sharia law to come into existence in our borders without a war on the very government that attempts to enforce it?"

I since you won't refute that you think that we as a nation / government should tell other nations around the world how to live their lives, then I will stand firmly in telling you that you are no Libertarian.

Somewhere along the lines you decided that it is okay to shake the stick of war at anyone that doesn't believe the way you believe. That it is okay to use the CIA, FBI, NSA ad infinitum to change the leadership of another nation that is more inline with what you think is appropriate behavior.

Lo, we put the Shah of Iran into power, Marcos in the Phillipines, Noriega in Panama. Built up and helped gain power for Osama bin Laden, and Saddam Hussein.

Then we wonder why these megalomaniacs decided not to be our puppet anymore, and the people of these countries turn away from the United States as a partner and a friend.

Since you don't believe what I said about violence, Tough Shit.... I don't care who wields the mantle of violence, I will fight it tooth and nail.

Whether it be your self described Islamists, Jewish predatory government, Communist totalitarians or our own government here in the United States.

When you think it is okay to change society through force, I will always be your enemy.

Anonymous said...

Eric, this perito is off his meds. Needs attention. And quite sincerely, I think he's unhinged. His are not the comments of a stable, mature adult. He's an angry, dumb little fuck too lazy to start his own blog.

Eric Dondero said...

Texas Little The can you say the word "Islamist?"

Can you just say it? Just mutter the words.

I'll help you:

I - S - L - A - M - I -S - T

C'mon, you can do it.

The Right Guy said...

"Do you or do you not condemn Islamism? Don't give me some deflective answer like "I condemn all acts of violence, blah, blah, blah, blah, fucking blah.""

I condemn the religion of the pedophile prophet. The thing is, in this country, we are allowed to believe what we like. Beliefs≠actions. When someone acts in a certain way, like blowing shit up, killing people or planning to do the same, that's a different story. I really don't think you can separate Islam from Islamism. Do we call the WBC people christianists? No, because one, they don't accurately represent the teachings and ideals of christ and two, they are batshit crazy. What you call islamists technically aren't doing anything that isn't according to hoyle for them.

Eric:
Why stop at seatbelts? Lets have a go at:
Helmet laws
Shall Issue for every state
Castle Doctrine for every state
No federal taxation
legal age for drinking = 18
No national healthcare system of any kind
No national retirement system
The right to choose which school gets one's property/school tax
Prohibition of traffic cameras and police cameras in general.

and the list could go on...

Eric Dondero said...

How can anyone trust a guy whose on-line name uses a common Spanish preposition but doesn't complete the sentence?

Texas Little The?

The what?

Eric Dondero said...

Of course, I agree Jim. Yes, oppose the entire Nanny-state. Seat belts just happen to be my pet peeve.

Casey said...

Wow. Texas little ...something... sure has a full-on chubby for you, Eric. I'd be concerned, if I were you.

Agree that Congressman Paul's ideas on foreign relations are {cough} eccentric.

I just don't see the point of him refusing to endorse the GOP nominee. Even Mittens would be better than Teh Won.

Ran said...

Eric, the "El" possibly refers to (l)ibertarian as opposed to (L)ibertarian. Then again, it's grasp of libertarian principle is sorta hit 'n miss.

Or, it may be an arrogation unto itself the title "El," meaning "a god." Given the attitude, it sure fits - but not without a hefty bit of sarcastic irony.

Never can tell with these. I'd say ask its shrink.

Texas Little (l)ibertarian said...

So YOU are giving me a bad time about my nom de guerre and you can't figure out if you are:

Eric Dondero R. (your book)
Eric Rittberg
Eric Dondero
Eric Dondero Rittberg

Talk about someone that has an identity crisis.

And yet again you can't answer a question so I guess you truly are retarded.

And Anonymous and Casey....I have fun giving Eric crap. He is such a complete loser that someone has to remind him of that fact...he has posted his phone number twice and I have called and he won't answer the phone. Talk about a chicken shit.


Better Eric?

Texas Little (l) libertarian. But since you already knew that, and you are to brain dead to come up with something new, I figure I would spell it out again.

BTW....no one believes you speak 15 languages. You are to inept articulating yourself in English to be functionally able to speak in another language.

Texas Little El said...

Ran, where is the miss on my views of Libertarianism?

M. Simon said...

Eric,

You might find my book review of

How Civilizations Die: (And Why Islam Is Dying Too) useful with regard to the willful ignorance of some around here.

In The Heart

M. Simon said...

Eric,

Re: November 7, 2011 3:26 PM

Can I get invited to the next party? At least to watch? ;-)

M. Simon said...

Texas Little El said...

Ran, where is the miss on my views of Libertarianism?

November 8, 2011 1:53 AM


I have friends who I disagree with vociferously about politics and yet I would trust them with my 6.

You? Not so much.

The Right Guy said...

In political circles(and religion) I think it's rare to find people that disagree a lot and remain friends. For some reason many people rather be reinforced in their beliefs than challenged.

TJ had something interesting to say about the subject:

I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend.
Thomas Jefferson

It's a shame more people don't follow this.

As far as trusting someone with my "6", that takes a long time.