From Eric Dondero:One of the Nation's top libertarian Republicans is now officially backing Herman Cain for President.
Overnight from Yahoo News, The Ticket, "Dennis Miller endorses Herman Cain, plans to headline a fundraiser":
On the heels of presidential candidate Herman Cain's win in the Florida straw poll last weekend, the radio host Dennis Miller announced Monday that he's endorsing Cain for the 2012 Republican presidential nomination.
Miller, who mentioned his support for the Cain campaign on his national radio show, will headline a fundraiser for Cain in Los Angeles and has donated to the campaign, a Cain spokeswoman confirmed.
"I'd like to thank [Miller] for his support," Cain said in a statement on his campaign Twitter feed. "I look forward to working with him as we continue our journey to the White House!"
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Title "Huge GOP Prez News!!!" - yea. Subtitle "Libertarian Republican Dennis Miller endorses Herman Cain" - ehhhh, not so much.
While there are a few folks who believe that there is such a thing as a "libertarian republican" others find the discussion of such a hypothetical animal to be akin to the existence of the mythical Sasquatch.
I rather think that if either Dennis Miller or Herman Cain were asked if they were a libertarian republican they would both disabuse any presumption that they were any sort of libertarian (Republican, spotted, furry or otherwise).
Being a Libertarian (or libertarian) means that you at a very minimum advocate for the legalization of marijuana and really should advocate for an immediate legalization of all currently illegal drugs.
I look forward to seeing some articles about Miller and Cain advocating for the legalization of marijuana. Until then I will end with the line a skeptical youth once used...
What you talkin' about Willis?
"Being a Libertarian (or libertarian) means that you at a very minimum advocate for the legalization of marijuana and really should advocate for an immediate legalization of all currently illegal drugs."
Except, of course, when that isn't the case. Man, reality sucks... but some libertarians prefer "reality" over drugs. Granted, drug legalization is a rational libertarian position; that isn't the question.
Unfortunately there is no single litmus test for "libertarian." Speaking of chimeras... How 'bout that Sasquatch?
Ran
Cain's wholehearted endorsement of banking bailouts makes him a hard sell to anyone describing themselves with libertarian views. That was the power of the state at its most raw, in full view for the world.
Yeah. At the very least, a "real" libertarian wants heroin sold at the gas station.
The libertarian movement in this country is comprised mostly of children. They've given the term itself a bad name. Shitheads like this "Thane" character typify the clownish nature of the average "real" libertarian.
"That was the power of the state at its most raw, in full view for the world."
Yeah. The power to issue a loan and then be repaid with interest. Where do you fucking retards come from?
Except Dennis regularly refers to himself as a "libertarian."
If there is one single issue that is a litmus test for whether or not someone is a libertarian, it is opposition to Islamo-Fascism.
If you're Pro-Burka, Pro-Execution of Homosexuals, Pro-Outlawing of Alcohol, and Pro-Sharia, YOU'RE NOT A LIBERTARIAN.
On the domestic side, oppositition to seat belt laws is 1,000 times more important than drug legalization.
I'm sure if you'd ask both Herman and Dennis how they felt about the Federal Government telling them that they had to wear a seat belt in their vehicles, they'd both shout "Fuck the Feds!"
Here's my definition of libertarian:
Less Taxes!
Oppose Islamism
In favor of Immediate Repeal of Seat Belt laws, drinking age back down to 18, and opposition to the Nanny-State in all its forms.
Oh, and did I mention Thane, I get to decide who is and who is a LIBERTARIAN. Since I AM without virtually any rivals, the greatest Libertarian Political Activist in the entire Nation. (Save Scott Kohlhaas, and Paul Jacob). Nobody! Nobody!!! works as hard for liberty every day as I do.
I live, breathe, eat, shit and fuck libertarianism, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year.
He who worketh hardest for thy libertarian movement, is the most libertarian.
Oh, and did I mention Thane, I get to decide who is and who is a LIBERTARIAN. Since I AM without virtually any rivals, the greatest Libertarian Political Activist in the entire Nation. (Save Scott Kohlhaas, and Paul Jacob). Nobody! Nobody!!! works as hard for liberty every day as I do.
I live, breathe, eat, shit and fuck libertarianism, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year. - Eric
The editor once again shows his subtlety and humility in conveying the core principles of libertarian thought. Eric Dondero... libertarian, humanitarian, inheritor of Ghandi's spirit.
He blesses us all with his unique insight.
Yup. Tell me Charlie, who works harder for liberty than Eric Dondero Rittberg?
I get up at 4 fuckin' o'clock every goddamned morning to put this website together before I go to work. I haven't had a day off from petitioning for libertarian causes in over 40 days now.
He who works hardest for the libertarian movement gets to decide who is and who is not a libertarian. Not Ron Paulist computer geeks on-line who wouldn't know a clipboard if it smacked 'em in the ass.
Try fighting union goons all day long, and then come back to me and tell me how libertarian you are. Until then, shut the 'F' up!
I think you need more sleep Eric...
It might help your sense of humor :-)
And I hate to burst your bubble but you ain't changing the world. you're running a BLOG and "Pissing in the wind" as my man Right Guy would say. Outside of giving me RGuy and Chuck a place to chat you're about as useful as a perforated condom.
In 50 years the body politic will not be remembering your name oh "Great libertarian activist". Outside of getting fired by Ron Paul and being known for your smarmy disposition on Reason.com what are you known for oh great one???
Your delusions of grandeur are mildly entertaining though :-)
"Fired by Ron Paul?" Really? Do you have any evidence to back up that claim, or is that something you just pulled off of some internet chat group.
Tell you what. If you think I was fired by Ron Paul, how about asking Paul's longtime Chief of Staff Tom Lizardo up in D.C. I think he'd be more than happy to clear that misconception up with a simple phone call.
Fact is, I resigned, actually resigned repeatedly. He couldn't find anyone he liked to travel through the district with, so he tracked me down in Mexico, and brought me back to work. I told him I was only going to work for a short while. He agreed.
Then he decided not to back Bush in the War in Iraq. I told him straight out, I was resigning. Took him 6 months to accept my resignation after that.
Oh, and did I mention two weeks after I left his employ, he called me at home, and implored me to come back to work.
And that's what you call "firing"?
And Charlie, just for the record this "blog" as you call it, GETS FUCKING 1,000 UNIQUE VISITORS A DAY ACCORDING TO SITE METER, 1,800 A DAY ACCORDING TO GOOGLE STATS.
We've been linked by National Review, HotAir.com, Instapundit, and blasted by Salon.com over the years.
We practically broke the Sarah Palin as VP selectee story, (2nd on that), and WERE THE VERY FIRST TO BUST OPEN THE SARAH PALIN EMAIL HACKING STORY IN '08.
Just today, we're breaking the Libertarian Party gains a State Rep. story. Beating the 200-year old Providence Journal by 3 hours.
Yup, just a little place to give Right Guy, Chuck and you some banter space, alright.
"I rather think that if either Dennis Miller or Herman Cain were asked if they were a libertarian republican they would both disabuse any presumption that they were any sort of libertarian (Republican, spotted, furry or otherwise)."
I have heard Miller describe himself as 1/3 objectivist, 1/3 conservative, and 1/3 libertarian. Having been a habitue at this blog for five years or so, I'd dare say that mix describes many LR regulars, including myself. By the way, Miller is also a Republican, therefore, the label "libertarian republican," is not a stretch.
Dennis Miller is probably more of a LR than most people that post here. That said, so what he endorses hermie. It's great Cain is doing well, finally...But there's a ways to go. One note though: The Zogby poll was done before the Florida straw poll. People that polled must have been impressed Thursday night. 999...Is that like 666 inverted? :) I wish Hermie well.
Fantastic news... I tend to agree with virtually everything Dennis stands for. Herman Cain included. Dennis and PJ O'Rourke pretty well speak for me as conscientious observers. I am a die hard libertarian republican. I appreciate all that Eric shares here. There are nuances to all paradigms and beliefs, and if you are such a supercilious purist that you deem your inflexible zealot nuances as a litmus test to determine that others are lesser than you because they don't 'advocate' for the immediate legalization of all illicitly traded drugs, then be happy in that lonely deep dark hole of anarchistic bile you have dug for yourself.
Regarding Cain and TARP: “I now regret saying that I supported TARP... in retrospect I would never have supported the idea of TARP because of how it was abused.”
~ Herman Cain, Des Moines Iowa
~ daredevilaccordian
"in retrospect I would never have supported the idea of TARP because of how it was abused"
So sad. So true.
Cain has integrity that no other candidate can approach. In a moral world, that should trump all else. Should is a fantasy we would be well to guard against. The power to enforce "should" gives life to the ultimate evil in us as humans.
If Thane "Did you just fart, Sir?" Eichenauer has a credible alternative to Herman Cain, I'm sure we'd all appreciate the info. As for me and mine, we will serve reality...not dope.
This all comes down to the fact that due to the term Republican being diluted due to Republican Party cheer leading for bigger government that many Republicans feel the need for another term that actually means something.
If Herman Cain wants to be described as a pro-choice on seatbelts Republican then I encourage him to do so (and others to do so). Libertarian does mean something (an advocate of greater freedom and smaller government) which is why Republicans often feel the urge to describe themselves as libertarian as Republican as a label has stopped meaning much.
Chuck, you can disparage me personally but if you really wanted to persuade John and Jane America you would discuss my the substance of my comment and not engage in name calling.
I do not lobby for heroin at gas stations. I advocate for the freedom of Americans to buy whatever food, drug or medicine at the establishment of their choice.
Dondero, I'll admit that Miller calls himself a libertarian. One point for you.
"opposition to the Nanny-State in all its forms" which I take to mean that you support legalization of drugs?
"He who worketh hardest for thy libertarian movement, is the most libertarian." I agree with most of that statement but with the modification "He who worketh most effectively for the libertarian movement..." Based on your results so far I'll grant you the prize this month.
As for Chuck on Cain I have to say that if Cain couldn't identify a bailout in 2008 then I wouldn't trust him to not be suckered into supporting another bailout if elected. Regret is appreciated but it doesn't pay back US government bonds does it?
I'll keep a lookout for Herman Cain talking about reducing the drinking age to 18.
"Thane", don't flatter yourself. I don't think enough of you "personally" to "disparage" you. I do notice your avatar, though; and it has that "something stinks" quality about it.
Your juvenile arguments have always been my primary focus. You've said some really stupid stuff, and that's a bell that can't be un-rung. Either you believe the stupid shit you've written or you don't. You're the perfect archetype of the blind "real" libertarian. You attack the Stalinist because his shoe is untied. You piss your pants about dope and seat belts and pretend you're on the side of something noble. heh
You aren't in the game. You aren't even in a genuine argument ABOUT the game. You're all about the color of the uniforms...and proudly so. Such is the nature of empty bravery which only requires contempt.
Onward solipsist soldier!
Chuck,
Your inability to discuss the issues and to move beyond name calling such as "juvenile arguments" and "stupid stuff" is disappointing.
Principled advocacy of freedom is always noble whether it be the freedom to wear (or not) seat belts or to choose the food, drink or medicine of your choice.
Real principle is a matter of priority. Yours are positively "head up ass" backwards. Legalizing dope might be a worthwhile objective, but placing it at the top of your list of "freedoms" means you're not about freedom but instead about being stoned.
Again, you're not in the game. You're just a bumper sticker. Meat is Murder might be a great bumper sticker too, but if it's at the top of your list, you're a fucking flake.
Selah.
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