Tuesday, April 19, 2011

A SURE REPUBLICAN WIN: TRUMP - WEST TICKET 2012

by Roger Stone

The huge South Florida Tea Party rally last saturday with Donald Trump and Congressman Allen West has electrified the Tea Party Movement for a Trump - West Ticket. West said he wouldn't rule it out.

From the Daily Caller:
When pressed repeatedly if he would rule out the possibility of running with Trump, the Republican House freshman did not say that the idea was off the table.

“Who knows what’s going to happen,” West said when asked if he’d accept a veep invitation from Trump. “If the people think that I have an ability to continue my service of my country in a different capacity, first of all we gotta talk to God, we gotta talk to my family, we gotta talk to the constituents
The Tax Day Rally was heavy with Trump - West signs, some home made and some pre-printed by an entrepreneur and sold for $5.00 a piece. The China-busting Manhattan billionaire and the Congressman and hero Army Vet to turn America around! Internet chatter is already strong among conservatives for a outsider Trump - West ticker immune from RINO pressure.

Photo note - Former Republican Congressman Mark Foley of Palm Beach in the background.

82 comments:

Lofo said...

A Trump-West ticket would have less of a chance than a Bachmann-Palin ticket.

Eric Dondero said...

Hmmn. I guess that explains why they're getting so much media attention.

What is it about libertarian policy wankers? Anything sparkling, exciting, inspiring, they fiercely oppose.

Yuk! Please NO BORING-ASS GOP TICKETS FOR 2012. Didn't we learn anything from McCain's loss?

Eric Dondero said...

Here's a challenge to all you Trump doubters out there.

Hate Trump? Fine. Come up with another candidate that is just as much a celebrity, flashy, exciting and colorful.

Hint: It ain't Mitch Daniels.

Eric Dondero said...

Sorry folks. If Obama taught us Republicans anything in '08, it's boring, dull, old and grey doesn't win us votes anymore with the American electorate.

EXCITE, EXCITE, EXCITE!!!! That should be the Number One qualification for a GOP candidate in 12.

The Right Guy said...

I don't hate trump but polling of him against obama isn't coming back good. Even Palin does better.

Dan said...

Putting a black guy up as a face of the party to counteract Obama didn't work with Michael Steele, and won't work with West. Please, more insincere efforts to make the party look more diverse and insult everbody's intelligence. Let's focus on ideas. But, if you must Mr. Stone, you might consider Hermann Caine instead.

Lofo said...

Hate Trump? Fine. Come up with another candidate that is just as much a celebrity, flashy, exciting and colorful.

Palin and recently Bachmann have also had lots of media attention. Media attention != credibility.

I'd like a serious leader, not a "flashy, exciting, and colorful" idiot who has donated to the likes of Chuck Schumer and Hillary Clinton, and has endorsed socialized medicine.

Lofo said...

Hey Dondero, as a "left libertarian", I suggest you listen to what Mark Levin has to say about Trump.

KosBoy said...

PLEASE do it Trump!! Please keep slapping down Obama over his birth certificate and MAKE THAT THE MAIN ISSUE of your campaign.

I beg you, Trump.

Eric Dondero said...

What????? Putting up a black guy to counter Obama as face of the GOP "didn't work"???

Are you fucking kidding me?? Having Michael Steele as RNC Chair for 2 years was absolutely brillant.

The liberal media hated him, and the fact that the RNC chose him.

Still a Michael Steele fan. Michael we need you back!

Eric Dondero said...

Question for all you Libertarian Trump doubters.

Why was it all fine for Libertarians to heart Trump back in the 1990s, when he was being talked about as a possible LP presidential candidate, but now that he's a Republican, oh no, "Trump sucks," and "he's no libertarian, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah!"

Hypocrites!

Libertarian Advocate said...

Sorry, Eric, but I'm not with you on this one.

IMO, Trump is a Demoncrat controlled false-flag candidate being put forward to discredit the Tea Party movement and libertarian philosophy.

His history of political contributions to the likes of Anthony Weiner and [up]Chuck Schumer and his democrat campaign guru raise too many red flags on where his true loyalties lie. I was for Obama before I was against him.

Bob D said...

I love Allen West, but don't trust Trump any further than I could throw him. Sure thought he was a big Obama supporter back in '08.

Gary said...

****** Trump is a Demoncrat controlled false-flag candidate *****

More silly Kindergarten childlike thinking. Trump endorsed McCain in 2008.

Trump is bascially a non-political businessman. He has had to cut deals with policial hack-whores from both parties in order to make money in real estate development.

Voters are frightened to death that we are sinking into a black hole. They are looking for a real leader who will Bitch-Slap the ball-less and spineless Socialists in Congress.

What voters see in the 2012 GOP field is the typical pansy-ass Right-Wing Socialists afraid of their own shadows.

Charles Peralo said...

lol Eric this is the stupidest post ever Trump has 0 chance at winning and West as VP only ads to this. Your not a libertarian your a neocon.

Anonymous said...

I'm really embarrassed for anyone promoting Trump, especially a "libertarian" site. What a joke. West would make a great VP, but if Trump is the nominee I will be staying home on election day. Trust me. The guy is not only not a real conservative and not presidential material, he would lose. Huge. And unlike Goldwater in 68, it won't inspire ny new conservative movement.

Eric Dondero said...

Do any of you here understand the importance of image and gumption in politics?

Charles Peralo? Mister pure as the snow is white. It's all about "issues." Who cares what the candidate looks like. Who cares if the candidate has sex appeal. Who cares if the candidate excites people and inspires them to vote for him/her.

Better to lose with a wonker who is right on the issues, rather than win with a Trump, Palin or Bachmann, right Peralo?

Image be damned, 'eh?

Eric Dondero said...

What was the main thing that we Republicans needed to learn from the 2008 campaign?

Anyone?

IT'S THE IMAGE TRIUMPHS OVER ALL OTHER FACTORS WHEN IT COMES TO THE AMERICAN ELECTORATE.

They voted for Obama cause he looked great in a suit, spoke well, had a certain kind of hip persona, and coolness about him, and he was a celebrity candidate.

Have every one of you here (save Gary) forgotten that lesson?

Do you all really want to go with Mitch Daniels, Tim Pawlenty, Haley Barbour and Huckabee??

Tell me, just how those type of candidates will appeal to the average celebrity-driven American voter? How will they appeal to Blacks and Hispanics who are very attracted to celebrity appeal?

What's sexy about Mitch Daniels?

Eric Dondero said...

Okay, if it ain't Trump, it damned sure better be Sarah Palin, Michele Bachmann, Marsha Blackburn, or somebody else with super celebrity/sex appeal.

DON'T YOU FUCKING DARE GIVE ME SOME BORING-ASS WONKER CANDIDATE who may be "right on the issues," but looks like shit in front of a TV camera.

We cannot afford to lose this race. And like it or not, AMERICANS ARE CELEBRITY OBSESSED.

Can't you all get that through your friggin' thick skulls???!!!

Eric Dondero said...

Geez, Charles Peralo, I'm a "NeoCon"? 'eh? Like Fareed Zakaria and Bill pipsqueek Kristol?

There is virtually nothing that I agree with on the issues with those two jerkoffs. They are big government Globalist democracy pushers.

I'm an American sovereignty, Fight Islamo-Fascism, Protect the Borders, Anti-Nanny-State LIBERTARIAN.

Tell me, would Zakaria or Kristol support repeal of Seat Belt laws? Higher Speed Limits? Drug Legalization? Prostitution? Gambling? Are they in favor of abolishing the IRS?

Gary said...

**** DON'T YOU FUCKING DARE GIVE ME SOME BORING-ASS WONKER CANDIDATE ****

That is why I love Governor Jesse Ventura. Navy SEAL. A man's man. Not some pussy who is afraid to say what he thinks.

The Trump problem is he is fighting the entire history of the United States. Our history says there are only four ways to make it to the White House:

1) The governor's mansion

2) The U.S. Senate

3) Being an army general

4) Being VP and the President dies

Right or wrong businessmen need not apply.

Gregory Smith said...

A Trump-West ticket might not be so bad, maybe we could win some of the black vote for once, not to mention that Trump might appeal to anyone who hates Obama, pro-choice women, conservative Hispanics, celebrity lovers, etc.

Of course, both Trump and West need to debate like never before, the liberal media is gonna be rooting for Obama so they need to be the Ronald Reagan who's gonna save us from this Jimmy Carter with a tan.

http://libertarians4freedom.blogspot.com/

Gary said...

NEWS ALERT

Trump officially joins Independence Party


NEW YORK (CNN) - Real estate developer Donald Trump officially changed his party affiliation on Monday to the Independence Party, New Yorks version of the Reform Party.

Trump had his voter registration form handdelivered to the New York County Board of Elections on Monday, officially putting him in the New York branch of the Reform Party, according to his political adviser Roger Stone.

Stone told CNN that Trump will soon begin travelling to Miami, Los Angeles and other cities to meet with Reform Party leaders to assess the prospects of winning the partys presidential nomination.

Gary said...

Someone scammed me. The Trump article was from a 1999 CNN article.

Still. It is interesting.

Doom said...

I love jokes. I am still chuckling after reading this a time or two. A "conservative" Obama and McCain II pairing? NYTs wishes, perhaps. It would guarantee conservatives another split that allowed McCain the first, and the loss.

Will said...

I might be off base with this, but something Gregory Smith said rang a bell in my head: "Trump might appeal to anyone who hates Obama, pro-choice women, conservative Hispanics, celebrity lovers, etc." Celebrity is the key word here. Did anyone see Andrew Breitbart on Hannity the other night? http://www.breitbart.tv/breitbart-gets-personal-with-righteous-indignation-on-hannity/ Breitbart wanted to emphasize a point that he thought all Hollywood is liberal, but now realizes there are more folks to the right than imagined. Thousands of writers, directors, actors, punk rockers, people with mohawks, hip hop artists who are looking for a moment in time when they can come out of the closet to fight the battle with us. They are coming out of the woodwork, according to Breitbart. Breitbart thus far has a proven record of working with stealth like covert folks to expose the left for who they really are. He is organized, well connected, and has the drive, skills and resources to amp up the fight against the left. Now, since we do live in such a celebrity obsessed society, is it reasonable that these "closeted" folks from Hollywood consist of big names, and would support Trump through a celerity blitzkrieg of television ads, and magazine/newspaper articles [online]? Would conservative/libertarian celebrities come out in droves to support one of their own; another celebrity?

In the movie "Hunt For Red October," Rear Admiral Joshua Painter (Fred Thompson, said to Jack Ryan (Alec Baldwin): "Son, the Russians don't take a crap without a plan." And Trump is no different. Could it be that Trump has some serious dirt on Obama? Could it be that Trump is working (planning) with Breitbart , along with the aforementioned Hollywood conservatives to pull out all the stops to derail the madness that has taken over our nation by the left? If now is not the time for those Hollywood conservatives to come out of the closet, then, when? Timing, and of course, a serious PLAN is everything.

Eric seems to be eanamored by "sexiness," image, and celebrity status. What could be more deliciously sexy than for a legion of well known Hollywood celebrities to come out against the left, exposing them for the morally, and intellectually bankrupt turds they are?

Just a thought....

Chuck said...

This is the dumbest shit I've ever read in my life.

Will said...

I might be off base with this, but something Gregory Smith said rang a bell in my head.: "Trump might appeal to anyone who hates Obama, pro-choice women, conservative Hispanics, celebrity lovers, etc." Celebrity is the key word here. Did anyone see Andrew Breitbart on Hannity the other night? http://www.breitbart.tv/breitbart-gets-personal-with-righteous-indignation-on-hannity/ Breitbart wanted to emphasize a point that he thought all Hollywood is liberal, but now realizes there are more folks to the right than imagined. Thousands of writers, directors, actors, punk rockers, people with mohawks, hip hop artists who are looking for a moment in time when they can come out of the closet to fight the battle with us. They are coming out of the woodwork, according to Breitbart. Breitbart thus far has a proven record of working with stealth like covert folks to expose the left for who they really are. He is organized and well connected, and has the drive, skills and resources to amp up the fight against the left. Now, since we do live in such a celebrity obsessed society, is it reasonable that these "closeted" folks from Hollywood consist of big names, and would support Trump through a celerity blitzkrieg of television ads, and magazine/newspaper articles [online]? Would conservative/libertarian celebrities come out in droves to support one of their own; another celebrity?

In the movie "Hunt For Red October," Rear Admiral Joshua Painter (Fred Thompson, said to Jack Ryan (Alec Baldwin): "Son, the Russians don't take a crap without a plan." And Trump is no different. Could it be that Trump has some serious dirt on Obama? Could it be that Trump is working (planning) with Breitbart , along with the aforementioned Hollywood conservatives to pull out all the stops to derail the madness that has taken over our nation by the left? If now is not the time for those Hollywood conservatives to come out of the closet, then, when? Timing, and of course, a serious PLAN is everything.

Eric seems to be eanamored by "sexiness," image, and celebrity status. What could be more deliciously sexy than for a legion of well known Hollywood celebrities to come out against the left, exposing them for the morally, and intellectually bankrupt turds they are?

Just a thought....

The Right Guy said...

Dumbest? Hardly. Believe it or not, there is dumber shit.

The Right Guy said...

Rasmussen poll: Obama 49%, trump 34%?

The Right Guy said...

Chuck made a comment this morning that seems to have disappeared. In the interest of fairness, I will repost it here.

Chuck:
"Sure win? What the fuck are you smoking?

It's a sure win for brakabama and the scum he's surrounded himself with. Trump isn't a conservative. He sure as hell isn't a libertarian. He's Michael Bloomberg with a Chewbacca haircut"

Gary said...

***** Trump isn't a conservative. He's Michael Bloomberg with a Chewbacca haircut *****

Right Guy, embrace the truth . . . there are no Conservatives. The pretend "battle" is between two factions of one Socialist Party that agrees 95% of the time.

The Democract Socialist faction fought for a 39% wealth re-distribution. The Republican Socialist faction fought for a 35% wealth re-distribution. Wow.

And just what does the Republican Socialist faction present to their SHEEPLE supporters? Dip-shits like Romney and Huckabee while "warning" their Sheeple to ignore unapproved people like Ron Paul, Ross Perot or Jesse Ventura.

Baaaaaa bleats the GOP Sheeple base. We will obey you my Master.

The Right Guy said...

Can you read you fucking moron? I didn't say that, Chuck did...

Perezoso said...

Trump may be a viable candidate. He talks a good game, has the shekels, and chicks, at least some of 'em, seem to like him.

But that doesn't make him the best candidate. Romney however hokey to some could bring in swing voters, or moderate Demos (a rarity, but some exist, reportedly). Depend strictly on the libertarian business vote, and.....yll lose.

Though a Palin/Bachmann ticket, with like Sarah gone rogue and showing off her new tits, with like Ted Nugent as campaign director, a strong legalization and prostitution effort...well one can dream

Gary said...

Right Guy, I am sorry. I figured since those were complete sentences they must have been from you and not the Chuck.

Andrew33 said...

I was at the Trump West rally. The turnout was "a tad" more than expected. Before the speech trump gave, I would have agreed with you. But Trump said absolutely nothing new in his speech that he had not said on tv or radio. Now folks looking into him seem to be finding he has previously had mostly socialist views. They also claim he supported obamacare, I don't know if it's true or not. Trump needs to get specific on policy quickly. Over repeated talking points won't work with the tea party.

Lofo said...

Like I said, Trump is a fraud, and may even be a Democrat plant hellbent on discrediting the GOP and Tea Party.

He supports socialized medicine and has supported far left politicians.

Chuck said...

The stupidity of this discussion is mind boggling. You Trump ass-kissers do realize he has to win a national election don't you?

How the hell do you imagine that happening? Have you lost your goddam minds?

He's Howard Stern minus the charisma. On matters of policy, he's a fucking buffoon. He brings nothing but empty celebrity to the race. Just like Jesse the lunatic Ventura.

Chuck said...

Maybe Meatloaf and Merv Griffin will run. Yaayyy!

I think I'm going to vomit.

The Right Guy said...

That would be some trick, Merv is dead. How about David Lee Roth and Axl Rose? That might do it or may be Brad Pitt and George Clooney? We'd have the female vote then...

Dan said...

I usually wouldn't say this, but Chuck is clearly the only one looking at this rationally. Yes, it is a stupid fucking idea.

Perezoso said...

Trump's hardly more ludicrous than Hucklebilly or Sarah Grizzly for that matter--though Axl and maybe like a...Jenna Jameson might be a viable team.

sex, capitalism, rock n roll--ahh yeahh

Chuck said...

More abject stupidity.

Perezoso said...

F*ck you macho man--it was intended to be humorous. Stupidity is your inability to understand it.

let's reiterate--Trump's hardly more preposterous than any of the GOP-TP frontrunners.

Chuck said...

Reiterate it by yourself, dumbass.

If you think what you just wrote is true, you are a fucking fool. If you don't, you're a liar.

Gary said...

***** He brings nothing but empty celebrity to the race. *****

Yep. Empty celebrity.

But tell that to:

--- Governor Ronald Reagan
--- Mayor Clint Eastwood
--- Senator Fred Thompson
--- Congressman Sonny Bono
--- Senator George Murphy
--- Senator Al Franken
--- Congressman Fred Grandy
--- Governor Jesse Ventura
--- Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger


Yep. Empty celebrity.

Anniee451 said...

"Putting a black guy up as a face of the party to counteract Obama didn't work with Michael Steele, and won't work with West."

Except West is nothing like Steele.

"PLEASE do it Trump!! Please keep slapping down Obama over his birth certificate and MAKE THAT THE MAIN ISSUE of your campaign."

You and your bullshit - damn that Michele Obama for giving a speech in which she says she and Obama were AIDS tested in his HOME COUNTRY of Kenya; she never should have said that. And why did he tell a group of students he was foreign-born and why did he say "My ratings are still high in the country of my birth!"

Guess they were lying then; you know, they were for it before they were against it.

"Okay, if it ain't Trump, it damned sure better be Sarah Palin, Michele Bachmann, Marsha Blackburn, or somebody else with super celebrity/sex appeal."

Heh, I could deal with that. I could do a Thompson/Palin too (and trust me, Fred has sex appeal and is not boring at all). Guess it all remains to be seen. Don't they usually wait for the nomination before doing a VP?

Chuck said...


--- Governor Ronald Reagan
--- Mayor Clint Eastwood
--- Senator Fred Thompson
--- Congressman Sonny Bono
--- Senator George Murphy
--- Senator Al Franken
--- Congressman Fred Grandy
--- Governor Jesse Ventura
--- Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger


For any of you folks out there who (unlike "gary") were ever given the opportunity to see Sesame Street as a kid, let us play a game. I trust you know the song.

All of those but one are kinda the same, but one of those names is doing it's own thing....

Now it's time to play our game;
time to play our game!

Please don't fail at Sesame Street, folks. Your country needs you.

Perezoso said...

8:24-- that's what I said macho Man. Trump's a viable candidate. Or maybe you prefer like a Hucklebee? OR perhaps Obama.

Ive read a few of yr comments and its fairly obvious yr just online to stir up some shit, not to really contribute anything valuable.

You wouldn't say yr sh*t in my face, ese--be sure of that.

The Right Guy said...

Welcome to my neighborhood...

Chuck said...

So now we're text messaging? What next? Are you gonna challenge me to a dance off?

I'm an honest man, anonymous asshole. What I've written here is true. I can demonstrate that it's true, but I don't think you give a shit about truth. You simply want to show your little dick to a stranger.

The Right Guy said...

Nah, it's just that he can't spell.

Will said...

Dan said: I usually wouldn't say this, but Chuck is clearly the only one looking at this rationally. Yes, it is a stupid fucking idea.

Don't include me with everyone else, Dan. I merely thought of a theory that holds as much weight as any other I've heard on the blogosphere. In no way was I defending Trump, nor in my post did I vilify him. Frankly, I think the idea of Trump running for president, especially as an independent is dangerous, in that Obama would have another four years to play havoc on this nation. I got stung by independent fever once before. The name of the bee that stung me was Ross Perot, a name that sticks in my mind under the category of, "never again."
But I notice the talk show hosts are divided. This morning, Rush seemed evasive about Trump's possible run. Best I got from him was, that they are golf buddies. Michael Savage hasn't been vitrioloc either way; mostly he seems somewhat receptive to the idea, My guy, Jerry Doyle, thinks the idea is crazy, as does Mark Levin, as pointed out by Lofo, earlier.
The following was copied from a comment at Maerican Thinker, and exemplified Levin's rant against Trump: You most certainly will discover that Mr. Trump is light years away from being a "Republican", conservative or a libertarian. That Donald Trump Is Pretty .
*Liberal/Progressive
* Cozy with the RINOs and Democrat/Progressives. (He has given lots of money to very left politicians (Reid, Rahm, Clinton, Weiner, etc) and a few RINOs (Crist, McCain). He has never supported a conservative.)
* Cozy with George Soros. (Soros is a big financial backer and investor Trump's properties. $160 million from Soros for just one Chicago property.)
* Confused for supporting socialized medicine, taxing the rich and gun control. Quote: "I am a conservative on most issues but a liberal on health. We must have universal healthcare." Quote: "I propose a 14.25% tax on the net worth of wealthy Americans to pay down the national debt."
*Confused for supporting the United Nations. (Quote: "I'm a big fan, a very big fan of the United Nations, and all it stands for.")
* Confused for objecting to a flat tax. (Quote: "I object to the flat tax because it is unfair to the poor...and only the wealthy would reap a windfall.")
* Confused for opposing Paul Ryan's budget plan. (MSNBC Quote: "I will tell you, I think it's very dangerous for the Republicans to go on this ledge, because [the plan could be perceived as hurting seniors]. I have a lot of respect for Paul Ryan, but what is happening is the Republicans are going way, way, way far out on the ledge."
*Self serving for threatening to run as an independent. (This would split the GOP vote and essentially guarantee Obama's re-election.)
* Superficial for NEVER talking about serious conservative principles or policies. (I don't think he has criticized ANY of Obama's disastrous policies.
* Loved and heavily promoted by the MSM media. (What does that tell you?!)

Eric Dondero said...

My dear Chuck. I happen to like Howard Stern. And was somewhat involved in the Draft Howard Stern for NY Governor movement in 1992.

He also happens to be a 2nd cousin of mine. That's a no-shitter. I am directly related to Howard Stern. In fact, he came to my sister's wedding way back in the 1980s in Philly.

Chuck said...

But he's contributing something valuable.(unlike me)

heh

Chuck said...

I happen to like Howard Stern."

Who gives a fucking fuck? I "happen" to like Steven Wright,Eric; but I'm not endorsing him for fucking president of the United States.

What the hell is wrong with you? You might as well be talking up Snooki or Ozzy fucking Osbourne, man.

Chuck said...

I'm totally baffled, Eric. Totally baffled.

The Right Guy said...

Or David Lee Roth. May be Eric's related to him too.

Will said...

Dan said: I usually wouldn't say this, but Chuck is clearly the only one looking at this rationally. Yes, it is a stupid fucking idea.

Don't include me with everyone else, Dan. I merely thought of a theory that holds as much weight as any other I've heard on the blogosphere. In no way was I defending Trump, nor in my post did I vilify him. Frankly, I think the idea of Trump running for president, especially as an independent is dangerous, in that Obama would have another four years to play havoc on this nation. I got stung by independent fever once before. The name of the bee that stung me was Ross Perot; a name that sticks in my mind under the category of, "never again."
But I notice the talk show hosts are divided. This morning, Rush seemed evasive about Trump's possible run. Best I got from him was, that they are golf buddies. Michael Savage hasn't been vitrioloc either way; mostly he seems somewhat receptive to the idea, My guy, Jerry Doyle, thinks the idea is crazy, as does Mark Levin, as pointed out by Lofo, earlier.
The following was copied from a comment at Maerican Thinker, and exemplified Levin's rant against Trump: You most certainly will discover that Mr. Trump is light years away from being a "Republican", conservative or a libertarian. That Donald Trump Is Pretty .
*Liberal/Progressive
* Cozy with the RINOs and Democrat/Progressives. (He has given lots of money to very left politicians (Reid, Rahm, Clinton, Weiner, etc) and a few RINOs (Crist, McCain). He has never supported a conservative.)
* Cozy with George Soros. (Soros is a big financial backer and investor Trump's properties. $160 million from Soros for just one Chicago property.)
* Confused for supporting socialized medicine, taxing the rich and gun control. Quote: "I am a conservative on most issues but a liberal on health. We must have universal healthcare." Quote: "I propose a 14.25% tax on the net worth of wealthy Americans to pay down the national debt."
*Confused for supporting the United Nations. (Quote: "I'm a big fan, a very big fan of the United Nations, and all it stands for.")
* Confused for objecting to a flat tax. (Quote: "I object to the flat tax because it is unfair to the poor...and only the wealthy would reap a windfall.")
* Confused for opposing Paul Ryan's budget plan. (MSNBC Quote: "I will tell you, I think it's very dangerous for the Republicans to go on this ledge, because [the plan could be perceived as hurting seniors]. I have a lot of respect for Paul Ryan, but what is happening is the Republicans are going way, way, way far out on the ledge."
*Self serving for threatening to run as an independent. (This would split the GOP vote and essentially guarantee Obama's re-election.)
* Superficial for NEVER talking about serious conservative principles or policies. (I don't think he has criticized ANY of Obama's disastrous policies.
* Loved and heavily promoted by the MSM media. (What does that tell you?!)

Anonymous said...

I'd take Palin in a heartbeat. At least she's not PRO socialized medicine and doesn't flip-flop on stuff like abortion.

Levin's takedown of The Donald last week was epic. Worth a listen if you missed it.

Chuck said...

If Ted Turner claimed tomorrow to be a republican, how many "libertarian republicans" would be gullible enough to follow him around like lost puppies?

What the fuck is going on here? This is insane!

Will said...

Dan said: I usually wouldn't say this, but Chuck is clearly the only one looking at this rationally. Yes, it is a stupid fucking idea.

Don't include me with everyone else, Dan. I merely thought of a theory that holds as much weight as any other I've heard on the blogosphere. In no way was I defending Trump, nor in my post did I vilify him. Frankly, I think the idea of Trump running for president, especially as an independent is dangerous, in that Obama would have another four years to play havoc on this nation. I got stung by independent fever once before. The name of the bee that stung me was Ross Perot; a name that sticks in my mind under the category of, "never again."
But I notice the talk show hosts are divided. This morning, Rush seemed evasive about Trump's possible run. Best I got from him was, that they are golf buddies. Michael Savage hasn't been vitrioloc either way; mostly he seems somewhat receptive to the idea, My guy, Jerry Doyle, thinks the idea is crazy, as does Mark Levin, as pointed out by Lofo, earlier.
The following was copied from a comment at American Thinker, and exemplified Levin's rant against Trump: You most certainly will discover that Mr. Trump is light years away from being a "Republican", conservative or a libertarian. That Donald Trump Is Pretty .
*Liberal/Progressive
* Cozy with the RINOs and Democrat/Progressives. (He has given lots of money to very left politicians (Reid, Rahm, Clinton, Weiner, etc) and a few RINOs (Crist, McCain). He has never supported a conservative.)
* Cozy with George Soros. (Soros is a big financial backer and investor Trump's properties. $160 million from Soros for just one Chicago property.)
* Confused for supporting socialized medicine, taxing the rich and gun control. Quote: "I am a conservative on most issues but a liberal on health. We must have universal healthcare." Quote: "I propose a 14.25% tax on the net worth of wealthy Americans to pay down the national debt."
*Confused for supporting the United Nations. (Quote: "I'm a big fan, a very big fan of the United Nations, and all it stands for.")
* Confused for objecting to a flat tax. (Quote: "I object to the flat tax because it is unfair to the poor...and only the wealthy would reap a windfall.")
* Confused for opposing Paul Ryan's budget plan. (MSNBC Quote: "I will tell you, I think it's very dangerous for the Republicans to go on this ledge, because [the plan could be perceived as hurting seniors]. I have a lot of respect for Paul Ryan, but what is happening is the Republicans are going way, way, way far out on the ledge."
*Self serving for threatening to run as an independent. (This would split the GOP vote and essentially guarantee Obama's re-election.)
* Superficial for NEVER talking about serious conservative principles or policies. (I don't think he has criticized ANY of Obama's disastrous policies.
* Loved and heavily promoted by the MSM media. (What does that tell you?!)

Perezoso said...

8: 48.
Fuck you, Chuckie. Yr the little dick with a big byatch mouth.

and now, puto, you got Trump's people on ya, Obama boy (as well as any who support the mainstream responsible GOP cand.)

Gary said...

***** This is insane *****

Chuck, you should know best.

The Right Guy said...

If he offered a buffalo burger, may be they would.

Will said...

Dan said: I usually wouldn't say this, but Chuck is clearly the only one looking at this rationally. Yes, it is a stupid fucking idea.

Don't include me with everyone else, Dan. I merely thought of a theory that holds as much weight as any other I've heard on the blogosphere. In no way was I defending Trump, nor in my post did I vilify him. Frankly, I think the idea of Trump running for president, especially as an independent is dangerous, in that Obama would have another four years to play havoc on this nation. I got stung by independent fever once before. The name of the bee that stung me was Ross Perot; a name that sticks in my mind under the category of, "never again."
But I notice the talk show hosts are divided. This morning, Rush seemed evasive about Trump's possible run. Best I got from him was, that they are golf buddies. Michael Savage hasn't been vitrioloc either way; mostly he seems somewhat receptive to the idea, My guy, Jerry Doyle, thinks the idea is crazy, as does Mark Levin, as pointed out by Lofo, earlier.
The following was copied from a comment at American Thinker, and exemplified Levin's rant against Trump: You most certainly will discover that Mr. Trump is light years away from being a "Republican", conservative or a libertarian. That Donald Trump Is Pretty .
*Liberal/Progressive
* Cozy with the RINOs and Democrat/Progressives. (He has given lots of money to very left politicians (Reid, Rahm, Clinton, Weiner, etc) and a few RINOs (Crist, McCain). He has never supported a conservative.)
* Cozy with George Soros. (Soros is a big financial backer and investor Trump's properties. $160 million from Soros for just one Chicago property.)
* Confused for supporting socialized medicine, taxing the rich and gun control. Quote: "I am a conservative on most issues but a liberal on health. We must have universal healthcare." Quote: "I propose a 14.25% tax on the net worth of wealthy Americans to pay down the national debt."
*Confused for supporting the United Nations. (Quote: "I'm a big fan, a very big fan of the United Nations, and all it stands for.")
* Confused for objecting to a flat tax. (Quote: "I object to the flat tax because it is unfair to the poor...and only the wealthy would reap a windfall.")
* Confused for opposing Paul Ryan's budget plan. (MSNBC Quote: "I will tell you, I think it's very dangerous for the Republicans to go on this ledge, because [the plan could be perceived as hurting seniors]. I have a lot of respect for Paul Ryan, but what is happening is the Republicans are going way, way, way far out on the ledge."
*Self serving for threatening to run as an independent. (This would split the GOP vote and essentially guarantee Obama's re-election.)
* Superficial for NEVER talking about serious conservative principles or policies. (I don't think he has criticized ANY of Obama's disastrous policies.
* Loved and heavily promoted by the MSM media. (What does that tell you?!)

Will said...

Dan said: I usually wouldn't say this, but Chuck is clearly the only one looking at this rationally. Yes, it is a stupid fucking idea.

Don't include me with everyone else, Dan. I merely thought of a theory that holds as much weight as any other I've heard on the blogosphere. In no way was I defending Trump, nor in my post did I vilify him. Frankly, I think the idea of Trump running for president, especially as an independent is dangerous, in that Obama would have another four years to play havoc on this nation. I got stung by independent fever once before. The name of the bee that stung me was Ross Perot; a name that sticks in my mind under the category of, "never again."
But I notice the talk show hosts are divided. This morning, Rush seemed evasive about Trump's possible run. Best I got from him was, that they are golf buddies. Michael Savage hasn't been vitrioloc either way; mostly he seems somewhat receptive to the idea, My guy, Jerry Doyle, thinks the idea is crazy, as does Mark Levin, as pointed out by Lofo, earlier.
The following was copied from a comment at American Thinker, and exemplified Levin's rant against Trump: You most certainly will discover that Mr. Trump is light years away from being a "Republican", conservative or a libertarian. That Donald Trump Is Pretty .
*Liberal/Progressive
* Cozy with the RINOs and Democrat/Progressives. (He has given lots of money to very left politicians (Reid, Rahm, Clinton, Weiner, etc) and a few RINOs (Crist, McCain). He has never supported a conservative.)
* Cozy with George Soros. (Soros is a big financial backer and investor Trump's properties. $160 million from Soros for just one Chicago property.)
* Confused for supporting socialized medicine, taxing the rich and gun control. Quote: "I am a conservative on most issues but a liberal on health. We must have universal healthcare." Quote: "I propose a 14.25% tax on the net worth of wealthy Americans to pay down the national debt."
*Confused for supporting the United Nations. (Quote: "I'm a big fan, a very big fan of the United Nations, and all it stands for.")
* Confused for objecting to a flat tax. (Quote: "I object to the flat tax because it is unfair to the poor...and only the wealthy would reap a windfall.")
* Confused for opposing Paul Ryan's budget plan. (MSNBC Quote: "I will tell you, I think it's very dangerous for the Republicans to go on this ledge, because [the plan could be perceived as hurting seniors]. I have a lot of respect for Paul Ryan, but what is happening is the Republicans are going way, way, way far out on the ledge."
*Self serving for threatening to run as an independent. (This would split the GOP vote and essentially guarantee Obama's re-election.)
* Superficial for NEVER talking about serious conservative principles or policies. (I don't think he has criticized ANY of Obama's disastrous policies.
* Loved and heavily promoted by the MSM media. (What does that tell you?!)

Will said...

Dan said: I usually wouldn't say this, but Chuck is clearly the only one looking at this rationally. Yes, it is a stupid fucking idea.

Don't include me with everyone else, Dan. I merely thought of a theory that holds as much weight as any other I've heard on the blogosphere. In no way was I defending Trump, nor in my post did I vilify him. Frankly, I think the idea of Trump running for president, especially as an independent is dangerous, in that Obama would have another four years to play havoc on this nation. I got stung by independent fever once before. The name of the bee that stung me was Ross Perot; a name that sticks in my mind under the category of, "never again."
But I notice the talk show hosts are divided. This morning, Rush seemed evasive about Trump's possible run. Best I got from him was, that they are golf buddies. Michael Savage hasn't been vitrioloc either way; mostly he seems somewhat receptive to the idea, My guy, Jerry Doyle, thinks the idea is crazy, as does Mark Levin, as pointed out by Lofo, earlier.
The following was copied from a comment at American Thinker, and exemplified Levin's rant against Trump: You most certainly will discover that Mr. Trump is light years away from being a "Republican", conservative or a libertarian. That Donald Trump Is Pretty .
*Liberal/Progressive
* Cozy with the RINOs and Democrat/Progressives. (He has given lots of money to very left politicians (Reid, Rahm, Clinton, Weiner, etc) and a few RINOs (Crist, McCain). He has never supported a conservative.)
* Cozy with George Soros. (Soros is a big financial backer and investor Trump's properties. $160 million from Soros for just one Chicago property.)
* Confused for supporting socialized medicine, taxing the rich and gun control. Quote: "I am a conservative on most issues but a liberal on health. We must have universal healthcare." Quote: "I propose a 14.25% tax on the net worth of wealthy Americans to pay down the national debt."
*Confused for supporting the United Nations. (Quote: "I'm a big fan, a very big fan of the United Nations, and all it stands for.")
* Confused for objecting to a flat tax. (Quote: "I object to the flat tax because it is unfair to the poor...and only the wealthy would reap a windfall.")
* Confused for opposing Paul Ryan's budget plan. (MSNBC Quote: "I will tell you, I think it's very dangerous for the Republicans to go on this ledge, because [the plan could be perceived as hurting seniors]. I have a lot of respect for Paul Ryan, but what is happening is the Republicans are going way, way, way far out on the ledge."
*Self serving for threatening to run as an independent. (This would split the GOP vote and essentially guarantee Obama's re-election.)
* Superficial for NEVER talking about serious conservative principles or policies. (I don't think he has criticized ANY of Obama's disastrous policies.
* Loved and heavily promoted by the MSM media. (What does that tell you?!)

Chuck said...

"Chuck, you should know best."

Yes. That is oddly astute of you, "gary". Those who observe the insane on a regular basis do happen to have a knack for seeing insane people and the insanity to which they cling.

Sorry to hear you got kicked off of Mr Trump's show. Buck up, buddy.

Chuck said...

"Fuck you, Chuckie. Yr the little dick with a big byatch mouth.

and now, puto, you got Trump's people on ya, Obama boy (as well as any who support the mainstream responsible GOP cand.)"


I don't speak retard, man. Imagine what an intelligent Pezdispenser might say and then do that. You'd be surprised how well that works.

Frank said...

Dondero is clearly not a political genius. The lesson to learn from Obama's win is that we need to nominate someone "sexy?". LMFAO. What a sophomoric, ignorant lesson to have learned.

Obama's win had little to do with "celebrity.". Anyone who s nominated for president automatically becomes a celebrity. John McCain was a celebrity. Obama won because of many factors. He was a viable black candidate and that motivated people. He was extremely well spoken. He seemed calm, rational and thoughtful contrasted to to the perceived off the cuff image of McCain/ Palin. The electorate wanted a clean break from Bush and his associated party. Obama ran a brilliant marketing campaign. He was an unknown that the electorate could project their diverse hopes onto.

The idea that Obama won because of some "sexiness" is absurd, andthe idea that the only way to beat him is with equal "sexiness" is dangerous.

But even if that were true- you are nuts to think Trump is that person. People think he is a total joke. He gets media attention because he is a wreck of a man who is entertaining to watch. He's completely incoherent and inconistent. I do t even know where the Frick he stands on anything other than the birth certificate issue- a completely ludicrous issue to base a campaign around. Do you really think the majority of Americans care? They care about jobs, economic progress, consistent foreign policy and rational behavior.

Ondeto has lost any credi ility he may have once had as a political commentator by blindly supporting a straw man based solely on the I'll conceived notion that Trump has some irresistible "sexiness". You are so out of touch.

If Trump were o run, he would be pulverized. What we need is an adult who is thoughtful, insightful, and can beat Obama by proving hs ideas are wrong, not his birthright.

Eric Dondero said...

Chuck, it's a question of time and energy.

I need to be fired up for a candidate in order for me to expend my precious time and energy on his or her campaign.

Would I walk precincts for Mitch Daniels, Huckster, Santorum, Barbour, or Tim Pawlenty for President? Nope. Nice guys and all, but boooooooooring!

Would I walk for Romney? Maybe?

Trump, Allen West, Herman Cain and Michele Bachmann - Abso-fucking-lutely.

Sarah Palin? I would walk over hot coals for her.

Gary said...

This should be posting #80 on Trump.

Notice that no one gives a damn to post about a Romney or a Huckabee.

Trump is the person to beat.

Eric Dondero said...

Frank, question for ya. I seem to be completely unable to get ANYONE! ANYWHERES, ANYHOW to give me an answer on this.

Why was it perfectly fine to support Trump for President in the early 1990s, when there was an active Libertarian Party effort to recruit him to run on the LP ticket, but now that he's a Republican, he's all of a sudden, "No Libertarian at all, not even close, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah..."

A bit hypocritical perhaps?

Chuck said...

I'm left to wonder who you asked.

You never asked me.

The Right Guy said...

Because Trump said he was for socialized medicine for one. How often does he change his mind?

objectivist said...

That ticket would certainly be a favorite among fiscal conservatives and Tea Party members, but I worry if their combined lack of political and foreign policy experience would be too great to overcome.

I would love to see West rise through the ranks, but maybe it would be best to wait for a few years.

objectivistpolitics.blogspot.com

Perezoso said...

9-51: You're no intellectual either, Chuckie.

I doubt you could distinguish "cost-benefit analysis" from your crack pipe.

Anonymous said...

Eric, I could care less who supported him in his "run" in the 1990s. He was a joke then, and he is a joke now. He is on record as supporting nationalized healthcare. He is on record as calling Bush evil. He is on record as saying he thinks Pelosi is a great woman. He is on record saying he wants to raise taxes. He is on record as making an silly birth certificate issue his only platform. They only thing that's a bigger joke that Trump is you for supporting him.

A. Sokolov said...

I can't believe I'm saying this.

Chuck is the only person with any modicum of goddamn sense around here.

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ajnock1976 said...

Mark Foley in the background? OMG---thank you for doing this. This help ends to potential presidential candidates.

Mark Foley in the background. Seems like a joke unto itself.

War party blowhards: thank you for your effective work in marginalizing our faction.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

yours in joy

Alan Turin