Thursday, March 31, 2011
Finally! A Video for Fitness Pole Dancers for Jesus in Texas
From Eric Dondero:
As regular readers of LR know, we have covered this story extensively here these past couple weeks. In fact, the wife of one of our regular readers Papa Giorgio of RPT blog (LR blog roll), is a Christian Pole Dancer herself.
Cheers Papa! This one's for you and your lovely lady.
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A worldly Christ is not him at all.
Whitey, thankfully a sentence that one can reasonably read. This is true, on its face.This is a fitness class. In other words... it is all girls who go and work out together and listen to worship music. They do not go out clubbing or stripping. Similarly, at the place my wife goes, they do tissue routines, hoop routines, hoola hoop routines, all to lose weight. Some of the fitness teachers are Christian and Christian music is played. There are burlesque themes, rock themes work outs, etc. many are religious women meeting together to work out. Now, if these ladies were going out to clubs and saying they were spreading the gospel by dancing on poles (even if fully dressed), would not be a Christ I would support or endorse. The Christ I serve is absolute and will drive father to be against son, daughter against mother, and the like. The Gospel message is not post-modern whatsoever... and the Judeo-Christian ethic is not relativistic.
This, however, has nothing to do with women working out together praising their Creator. Nor, may I add, that our (my wife and myself's) stance on our faith -- or the spreading of the life changing Gospel message -- preclude her dancing for me in the privacy of our marriage.
I was just at a funeral of a local ARMY medic who was shot by an ANA (Afghan National Army) traitor who turned on our forces and took the life of this 19-year old medic who attended a local church here in town. At the church service some Westboro Baptists (who hold to an extreme form of Calvinism) showed up and yelled in their legalistic way in order to disrupt another Baptist families time of solace. Thankfully they did not show up at the funeral, but the Patriot Guard was there in full force (a site in and of itself). You seem to be saying the same thing in a different venue. Not that God is judging 19-year old boys because the body-politic supports gay-marriage in the minority. But here I mean legalism.
Have you read Galatians like I suggested? Phariseism is legalism. In John 13:34 Jesus gives us a command to follow: "I give you a new commandment: love one another. Just as I have loved you, you must also love one another." I fail at this law that Jesus gives. Do you Whitey? Thankfully we come to the throne room clothed not in our righteousness but His work on the cross. But legalism tries to reach a lofty goal by good works (self) rather than by refining fire (God's work). So these ladies are #1, a work in progress like you and I, #2) becoming healthy in a community of like minded believers, and #3), spicing up their marriages.
Much thought Whitey, and love (Galatians 6:9-10)
I would ask Wesley does he believe everyone is saved or does god condemn some to hell?
theology 101
"At the church service some Westboro Baptists (who hold to an extreme form of Calvinism)"
Come now. I'm certainly no apologist for Calvinism, but that is a pretty dirty comparison. Those people are enemies of the gospel.
True, they are enemies. But, they hold to a form of hyper Calvinism that distorts the Gospel message in a cultic way. They would not exist without it. James White is the man when it comes to an orthodox understanding of what a strong Calvinist believes... WB are a few points beyond that five points. (I like to say I am a 4.5 Calvinist when I read James White, and a 3.5 Calvinist when I read Norman Geisler.) We can also add that these Westboro Baptists are Democrats.
Chuck, I hope my dilliniating between a very strong [orthodox] Calvinist like James White and the WB made my earlier thought more understood. Similarly, an extreme form of Armenianism gives way to aberrant (e.g., cultic) Christian beliefs as well.
Well I'm not a Calvinist at all. I'm a Lutheran.
Luther observed monasticism and came to understood it to be a vain attempt to earn the grace of God.
Calvin looked at monasticism and said, "Why should monks get to have all the fun? We can live like that too."
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“Do not suppose that abuses are eliminated by destroying the object which is abused. Men can go wrong with wine and women. Shall we then prohibit and abolish women? The sun, the moon, and the stars have been worshiped. Shall we then pluck them out of the sky? …see how much he [God] has been able to accomplish through me, though I did no more than pray and preach. The Word did it all. Had I wished I might have started a conflagration at Worms. But while I sat still and drank beer with Philip and Amsdorf, God dealt the papacy a mighty blow.”
(Martin Luther, quoted in: Drinking with Calvin and Luther – A History of Alcohol in the Church, by Jim West)
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You are one or the other Chuck (there is a middle ground called molinism). Luther himself was almost as outspoken on the issue as Calvin was. But in separation of degrees, these seem to be the most favored views available to us Christian folk.
Dancing with poles? Sure! In fact, I've danced with Polish girls, German girls, Irish, English, Japanese, African... you see, back in my day, being a sailor, I kinda got around, cuttin' the rug, and all.... heh!
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