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Sunday, December 12, 2010

Swedish Cartoonist Lars Vilk: Target of the Muslim Bomber

Target also the Swedish Democrat Party?

From Eric Dondero:

The Swedish Democrat Party is libertarian-leaning, pro-Israel and pro-free speech. The Party, which recently won 20 seats in the Swedish Parliament, has been on the forefront of Anti-Muslim immigrant legislation. They have also been the most outspoken defenders of Swedish cartoonist Larks Vilk.

We have followed the party, and reported on their activities on a number of occasions here at LR over the years.

From Sept. 20, 2010:
Rightist, but Pro-Israel, and Pro-Tolerance

Akesson and his Party are routinely described as "Far Right." Ironically though, they are both Pro-Israel in foreign policy and on social matters for maintaining Sweden's tradition of free speech rights and sexual tolerance.

For example, the Democrats are the biggest defenders of Lars Vilks, the Swedish cartoonist who has been continually harassed, beaten and even had his house set on fire, over depictions of Muhammed.
Now it's being revealed that Lars Vilks was a target of the Muslim bomber.

From the Umeedain Times:
A Swedish news agency said it had received an email warning before the blasts in which a threat was made against Sweden’s population, linked to the country’s military presence in Afghanistan and the five-year-old case of caricatures of the prophet Muhammad by Swedish artist Lars Vilks.

The sender referred to Swedish silence about the troops in Afghanistan and the controversial caricature by Vilks that showed Muhammad with the body of a dog. “As long as you don’t end your war against Islam and the humiliation against the prophet and with your stupid support to Lars Vilks the pig.”

14 Bloviations:

Swedishlibertarian said...

I have to Clearify that The Swedish Democrat Party is not a right wing party at all, that is a great missconception even in my home country sweden. They even stated own their own webpage that they are a Nationalist Socialist Party
I am a Libertarian so i know my own ideology. In order to be a libertarian you ought to be pro immigration in a pro Free market society with minimum goverment.The Swedish Democrat Party denies all of them esspecially the free market system. The Swedish Democrat Party are more like The Democrat Party in US.
And by the way! :Top Libertarian Republican for 2010? Sara Palin? Really?, she's not libertarian at all, please explain why she is on a libertarian republican poll together with Rand Paul? They have completly different views about mostly everything except for the tax cuts and healt care system

Eric Dondero said...

Poor, poor Swedish libertarian. I think you're sadly confused Sir as to what libertarian means.

What you are describing is the far-leftwing version of libertarian. Certain not the libertarian mainstream.

Further, you sound like you buy into the leftwing American media spin on Palin. Look into her history. She's been an active LIBERTARIAN for decades, even got the US Libertarian Party support in 2006.

Get your facts straight before you post. Will save you in the future from embarrassment. Just a suggestion.

Eric Dondero said...

BTW, if you know anything about U.S. politics, you'd know Palin and Rand Paul are virtually identical on the issues. So much so, in fact, that Rand enthusiastically invited her backing.

Swedishlibertarian said...

What do u mean by American Media, I'm pretty sure that you are reading the newspapers like anyone else and watch TV, youtube, and check facts online. what kind of material do you use before building an opinion?,
Of course you can be a member of a libertarian movement without beeing a real libertarian,i'm not argueeing about her involvement with organisations. are you sure that she did not wan't to be involved with wars in middleeast?. If your'e not against war then your not a libertarian ,I challenge you to find fact that's not media based about that, and if you do, i salute you.

and further more If you got your facts straigt you ought to know that it was Palin who rooted for Rand Paul not the opposit way, fact : http://www.randpaul2010.com/2010/02/sarah-palin-for-rand on-fox/

Ofcourse Rand Paul accepts a fellow republican support since they are involved with the same party but that does not mean that they are virtually identical on the big issues of America.

Chuck said...

If you're a limp-wristed, pro-National suicide, sanctimonious little Swedish faggot, you aren't a libertarian.

Salute.

Ran said...

Swedish,
I suggest - respectfully suggest - that you go to Rand Paul's websites and to Palins' sites, and then to their speeches and compare notes. Vastly more substantive comparisons on important issues than contrasts.

Cheers.

Eric Dondero said...

I agree with Chuck. You can't be a girlie man asshole who wants to surrender to Islamo-Fascism and still call yourself a "libertarian" with any shred of credibility.

You Sir, are a Leftist. You give yourselve away by spouting off Far Leftist America-hating talking points on the War against Islamo-Fascism.

As a 25 Veteran of the Libertarian Movement - some say the Greatest Libertarian Activist in America - I kindly ask you to immediately cease and desist from soiling our term Libertarian. You're a Leftist; definitely NOT ONE OF US REAL LIBERTARIANS.

Eric Dondero said...

BTW, Rand Paul and Sarah Palin are virtually identical on the issues. It's not just their backgrounds with the libertarian movement. They are indistinguishable on economic freedoms, individual liberty and national security issues. Well, Rand is slightly more hardline pro-life than Palin, and not quite as ready to embrace an alternative stance on marijuana legalization, as Palin has. So, I guess you could say Rand Paul is a tiny bit more Conservtive than Sarah.

Ran said...

One more thing, Swedish...
Liberty means first accepting the responsibilities of self-government.

Your left-lib friends think that "libertarian" means freedom from consequences and never having to fight for the liberty of others. What they truly mean is "suspended adolescence."

The Right Guy said...

Fight for the liberty of others? How about starting at home first. Our founders didn't have this evangelical attitude about Liberty and freedom. We had to wait about 120 years for this to come to fruition.

Ran said...

Hey RG, coming to the defense of Britain was, as it turned out, the right thing to do, IMHO. Then again, (cough) so was Jefferson's going after the Berber Pirates, yes?

But in the specific sense that I meant, defense of others means putting your life on the line for your family and neighbors - as black townsfolk did when the KKK rode through looking for victims.

As for the "politics" of War, it is an oxymoron. No political ideology is relevant to War, because War is not about "politics." War... is about killing people, breaking things and killing some more until the enemy is defeated or dies-off.

It's the toxic bastard daughter of War and Politics we face in Afghanistan and Iraq now, yes?

When pussy-libertarians pretend here that "liberty" means "anti-war" it's obvious that they're completely ignorant about history.

The Right Guy said...

Defense isn't democratizing a country other than your own. Isn't. The Barbary pirates was a short engagement and the brits were defense. No matter what Eric says, Iraq wasn't. And as far as Afghanistan goes, we haven't achieved much of anything. Look up the Diem brothers and compare to the Karzai brothers. We still make the same mistakes.

I've said it once and I will say it again. Getting into fights all the times wears a country and it's people down. It's unproductive. I don't think our founding fathers were neo-cons and their first concern wasn't spreading freedom to the world. American evangelicalism (or is it evangelical americanism?) would come about towards the end of the 19th century and continues to this day. Our founding fathers concern was to maintain freedom here first and honestly it should be ours as well. As we seek to spread our way of life by the end of a barrel of a gun, we have barry and big sis taking away our way of life here.

As far as a post 9/11 America goes, we had and have every right to pursue those that killed our own. We've failed in that in that Bin Laden and his cohorts are still breathing. If it were me running the show it would be over by now.

I think we can and should spread American exceptionalism where we can. I do not think it is a military solution but a cultural and economic one. Military solutions only last as long as enough force can be applied to suppress opposition. Cultural and Economic solutions appeal to a persons intellect and good sense as opposed to emotions such as fear. I would rather live in a world ruled by rationalism, not emotionalism.

So, to the extent that we are to be the shining city on a hill, we need to shine from that hill first and set a proper example. I think we've fallen down there.

Swedishlibertarian said...

It's very easy for you guys to call me leftist without checking YOUR facts. I have never once stated that i wanted to surrender to Islamo-Fascism. I statet that The Swedish Democrat Party don't belive in liberty for all individualls and therefor they are nor right wing/libertarian. i belive in strong national defence ofcourse, but that does not means that i'm willing to go to war with every country. I can see why some people see that it was justified to go to war with Afghanistan, but the war on Iraq was not Justified. Even Rand Paul stated that "it was no vote for the Iraq war and if it was i would have votet no ". And i am completly on his side on both arguments. He even mentioned that you have to look on the other hand as well, are you creating more terroist or less with unjustified wars?.

A true Libertarian knows that war is never profitable in the long run. Tell me who are paying for the wars? well the tax payers, but what do you get in return?.
In order to have less taxes and taxes through inflationen then you have to reduce spending. One way of reducing spending is to only put money on national defence and not on internationall wars.

When tax payers money is spend then it's by all means political and economicall issues.

Every person freedom should be free as long as it does not interfere with anyone elses freedom. I am a true Libertarian who belives in national defence.

Chuck said...

"A true Libertarian knows that war is never profitable in the long run."

Then "true libertarians" are slobbering retards. Surrender is much more costly than war.