Sunday, September 20, 2009

Obama Birth Certificate issue Not about Race, it's about following the Constitution

By JB Williams ©2009 USA

The divisions in America run deep at this moment in history, and the heated rhetoric is “ratcheted up” by the continual efforts to silence all voices of dissent, or label all dissenters “racists” no matter how unrelated to race or valid their complaints might be.

Still, when listening to millions of citizens showing up at town hall meetings and Tea Parties across the country, liberal Democrats see a bunch of racists. That’s what all leftists have been trained to see...

Take columnist and Fox News contributor Juan Williams for instance:

“These critics seem less interested in arguing about health care proposals than in building the case that Obama is not legitimately our national leader. - They charge Obama was not born in the United States, and therefore doesn't meet the requirements that all Presidents be native-born.” – said Williams
No Juan... These people don’t want to debate the alleged benefits of “socialized medicine” in a country where the Constitution grants the federal government NO authority on such a matter, and where FREEDOM (not government) has created the greatest nation on earth.

The issue over Barack Obama’s eligibility does NOT pertain to whether or not Barack is a “native born citizen,” but rather on the well-known FACT that he is NOT a “natural-born citizen,” and that the US Constitution clearly states that ONLY a “natural-born citizen” can be President of the United States.

To eliminate the confusion for Juan and others in his camp, “native-born” is a matter of where someone is born geographically, and “natural-born” is a matter of not only where one was born, but what his family lineage is and where his foreign loyalties rest.

There is NO debate over the fact that Obama is the “natural-born” son of a British citizen of Kenya. As such, Obama is a “natural-born” British subject and citizen of his father’s nation, Kenya. Even if he had navigated the naturalization process, becoming a “naturalized” citizen, he would not qualify for the office of president.

He claims to have been born in Hawaii, using “anchor baby” laws to support the notion that he qualifies. But even “anchor babies” are NOT “natural born citizens” for the reasons stated in the Law of Nations, at the foundation of Article II – Section I of our Constitution. They are “native-born,” thus the reason for Juan’s use of this term.

There is also NO honest debate over what the term “natural-born citizen” used by the original “birthers,” our Founding Fathers, meant, and even the US Senate was able to properly interpret the Law of Nations definition based upon Natural Law, regarding Senator John McCain last year.

But no! – Americans furious that a foreign global leader is sitting in their White House shoving anti-American policies down taxpayer throats for the benefit of leftist political power around the world, looks like a simple case of “racism” to Juan and Jimmy Carter. AMAZING!

“They make this argument even when all Hawaiian documents, officials and news stories of his birth conclusively prove he is an American.” - Williams
I honestly expect better than this. THREE COLB’s (which anyone from anywhere in the world can purchase in Hawaii) have been used as “proof” that Obama is a “natural born citizen.” NO other evidence has been offered and Obama has spent in excess of $1.5 million in legal fees to make certain that NO other evidence is ever seen. Thanks to taxpayers, he has the most powerful legal defense team in the world at his command in this effort, the Department of Justice.

12 comments:

smrstrauss said...

At the time of the writing of the Constitution Natural Born meant Native Born.

The term "naturalize" comes from Natural Born. When someone is naturalized, they are made to be citizens like the people who are born in the country. To be Naturalized does not make you like someone with two US parents who is born in the country.

The laws at the time of the writing of the constitution referred to the Natural Born as simply those who were born in the colonies or the early states. This was regardless of the number of parents who were already citizens or subjects.

And that is why the Wall Street Journal writes: " Some birthers imagine that there is a difference between being a “citizen by birth” or a “native citizen” on the one hand and a “natural born” citizen on the other. “Eccentric” is too kind a word for this notion, which is either daft or dishonest. All three terms are identical in meaning."

Sure, Vattel thought that a native citizen should have two parents and be born in the country. But who else did at the time? The far more common definition of Natural Born stems from British law (and the writers of the Constitution were mainly lawyers), and that held that Natural Born was simply someone who was born in the country.

Anonymous said...

"But even “anchor babies” are NOT “natural born citizens” for the reasons stated in the Law of Nations, at the foundation of Article II – Section I of our Constitution."\

Simply untrue.

"I honestly expect better than this. THREE COLB’s (which anyone from anywhere in the world can purchase in Hawaii) have been used as “proof” that Obama is a “natural born citizen.” "

One COLB has been used, clearly stating that Obama was born in Hawaii. It is stamped and certified.

"NO other evidence has been offered and Obama has spent in excess of $1.5 million in legal fees to make certain that NO other evidence is ever seen."

Except for the Hawaiian authority, who confirmed that Obama was born in Hawaii, and two birth announcements in two different newspapers. What there isn't any evidence of is Obama spending in excess of 1.5 million to fight this thing up.

But you keep fighting.

Anonymous said...

Re spending in excess of $1.5 million.

Before the election all of the cases against Obama were to stop the election. There were no cases against Obama for his birth certificate. Within those case none even asked that the court order that Obama provide his birth certificate to the court.

After the election, most of the cases were to stop the certification of the election or to stop the Inauguration. Again, within the cases none asked that Obama provide his birth certificate to a court.

Obama has sued to make sure the election was not stopped and to make sure that the certification and the Inauguration went as scheduled.

The current cases, which are far fewer than before the election and just after the election, charge many things such as Obama would not be a citizen even if he were born in Hawaii (which he was, as the OFFICIAL birth certificate of the state shows). These also are not lawsuits that ask for Obamas' birth certificate. As the Wall Street Journal pointed out:

"while this question sounds eminently reasonable, in fact it betrays a complete lack of understanding of the legal process. The “defense” against these frivolous lawsuits has consisted of filing a motion for summary judgment, which in every case has been granted.

In a motion for summary judgment, a defendant in a lawsuit asks the judge to dismiss the case as meritless before trial. In considering whether to grant such a motion, the judge is obliged to treat all facts in dispute as if they were resolved in the plaintiff’s favor. He may dismiss the case only if he finds it is without merit as a matter of law. The defendant’s introduction of additional factual evidence into the record would make the process more costly and time-consuming, not less."

And, it concluded: "Obama has already provided a legal birth certificate demonstrating that he was born in Hawaii. No one has produced any serious evidence to the contrary. Absent such evidence, it is unreasonable to deny that Obama has met the burden of proof. We know that he was born in Honolulu as surely as we know that Bill Clinton was born in Hope, Ark., or George W. Bush in New Haven, Conn."

smrstrauss said...

Re: "(which anyone from anywhere in the world can purchase in Hawaii)"

You cannot purchase a COLB in Hawaii that says you were born in Hawaii if you were not born in Hawaii. Furthermore, the law that allowed a foreign birth certificate to be registered and a Hawaii COLB to be issued was not passed until 1981, more than twenty years after Obama's birth.

When Obama was born the only document that could be entered into the birth records was an original birth certificate from Hawaii. The two officials in Hawaii have confirmed that there is an original birth certificate in the file, and their spokesperson said that their statement means that there is proof that Obama was born in Hawaii. (http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/11/obama_hawaaianborn_citizen_for.html)

The two notices that were in the Hawaiian newspapers on the weekend after Obama's birth were sent to the newspapers by the Hawaii government, which it did for all births in Hawaii (and not for births outside of Hawaii).

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Eric Dondero said...

Although I believe there's much evidence to indicate that Obama was born in Kenya, what my fellow "birthers" miss is this isn't so much about the actual site of his birth, but rather his non-native cultural affinity to America and American values.

The guy is much more akin to his cousin Odinga, or even a Mugabe in his belief system and just the way he conducts himself.

He's the exact opposite of Baseball, Rock n' Roll, Hot Dogs, Apple Pie, and small Town America.

Look at how pathetic he looded when he tried to bowl in Pennsylvania that one time, or his sissy-boy throw of the baseball at the All-Star Game.

For me, Obama fails the True America test on two counts:

He wasn't born here.

But more importantly, he doesn't share our American values, not even close.

Anonymous said...

Bah, this birth certificate crap is all a big waste of time.

You wanna bang on Obama for not being American, there's LOTS of proof of that. I mean bullet-proof that Obama is not American. Obama admits it in his book, there are State department records detailing his travel, as an adult, under an Indonesian passport. 'Splain that. Neither American nor Indonesian recognizes dual citizenship.

Larry Walker Jr said...

"smrstrauss" only responds to blogs where the truth is told. This is the truth and you know it's the truth and it will come out in time. Whenever smrstrauss shows up, you know you hit the nail on the head. You can't stop the truth and you can't refute 'Natural Law', for there is no statute whereby you can refute nature.

Adolf Hitler said...

Although I believe there's much evidence to indicate that the Jews weren't born in Germany, what my fellow National Socialists miss is this isn't so much about the actual site of their birth, but rather their non-native cultural affinity to Germany and German values.

The Jews are much more akin to their cousins, the Slavs, or even a gypsy in their belief system and just the way they conduct themselves.

Their the exact opposite of Athletics, Wagner, Frankfurters, Apfelstrudel, and small Burg Germany.

Look at how pathetic they look when they try to play sports, or their sissy-boy throws at basketball.

For me, the Jews fail the True Germany test on two counts:

They aren't from here.

But more importantly, they don't share our German values, not even close.

smrstrauss said...

Re: "there are State department records detailing his travel, as an adult, under an Indonesian passport."

Obama never had an Indonesian passport because he was never an Indonesian citizen, both Indonesia and the US State Department have said that he was never an Indonesian citizen. The document from the State Department is this: (http://www.scribd.com/full/17508463?access_key=key-1vg7c228ugapeqcnkki6.)

As to the allegation that in 1981 someone could not travel to Pakistan on a US passport, it is false. Pakistan was relatively peaceful at the time and encouraged tourists to visit. It even granted US citizens 30-day visas on arrival.

Obama was born in Hawaii, as the official birth certificate shows, and this was confirmed by the two officials of the state. There is no proof that Obama was born in Kenya. His Kenyan grandmother did not say that he was born in Kenya. She said that he was born in Hawaii. Here is the complete tape of her interview on Berg's site. (http://obamacrimes.com/Telephone_Interview_with_Sarah_Hussein_Obama_10-16-08.mp3)

Listen until she is asked the question "Whereabouts was he born?" at about five minutes into the tape. The answer is "America, Hawaii."

Ms. Cris Ericson said...

BIRTHERS!
REQUEST NEW FEC RULE
REQUIRING ALL PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES
TO PROVIDE THEIR
ORIGINAL LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE!
http://www.fec.gov

TITLE 11 CFR (CODE OF FEDERAL REGULATIONS) Section 105.3
Place of filing; Presidential candidates and their principal campaign
committees (2 U.S.C. 432(g)(4).
All designations, statements, reports, and notices, as well as any
modifications(s) or amendments(s) thereto, required to be filed
under 11 CFR parts 101, 102 and 104 by a candidate for nomination
for election or election to the office of President or Vice President
of the United States or by his or her principal campaign committee
shall be filed in ORIGINAL FORM with the FEDERAL ELECTION
COMMISSION.

11 CFR (Code of Federal Regulations) Chapter 1, Subchapter A
Section 111.4
COMPLAINTS
[2 U.S.C. Section 437g(a)(1)]
(a) Any person who believes that a violation of any statute or
regulation over which the Commission has jurisdiction has occurred
or is about to occur may file a complaint in writing to the
General Counsel, Federal Election Commission, 999 E Street,
NW., Washington, DC 20463. If possible, three (3) copies
should be submitted.
(b) A complaint shall comply with the following:
(1) It shall provide the full name and address of the complainant ; and
(2) The contents of the complaint shall be sworn to and signed in the
presence of a notary public and shall be notarized.

The Federal Election Commission oversees all the money spent
in campaigns for federal office.
11 CFR Ch. 1 Part 101 Section 101.2 CANDIDATE AS AGENT
OF AUTHORIZED COMMITEE [2 U.S.C. Section 432(e)(2)]

QUESTION: BECAUSE THE CANDIDATE IS THE AUTHORIZED
AGENT OF THE COMMITTEE, THEN, THEREFORE,
SHOULD
THE DUTIES OF THE FEDERAL ELECTION COMMISSION
INCLUDE DETERMINING IF EACH CANDIDATE FOR
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES IS IN FACT A
NATURAL BORN CITIZEN by providing their original
long form birth certificate?

11 CFR (Code of Federal Regulations) Ch. 1, Subchapter B
Part 200
PETITIONS FOR RULEMAKING

11 CFR Ch.1, SubCh. B, Section 200.2 PROCEDURAL
REQUIREMENTS
(a) ANY INTERESTED PERSON MAY FILE WITH THE COMMISSION
A WRITTEN PETITION FOR THE ISSUANCE, AMENDMENT, OR
REPEAL OF A RULE IMPLEMENTING ANY OF THE FOLLOWING
STATUTES:
(1) The Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971, as amended, 2 U.S.C. 431 et seq.;
(2) The Presidential Election Campaign Fund Act, as amended, 26 U.S.C. 9001 et seq.;
(3) The Presidential Primary Matching Payment Account Act, as amended, 26 U.S.C. 9031
et seq.;
(4) The Freedom of Information Act, 5 U.S.C. 552; or
(5) Any other law that the Commission is required to implement and administer,

(b) THE PETITION SHALL
(1) Include the name and address of the Petitioner or Agent. An Authorized
Agent of the Petitioner may submit the Petition, but the Agent shall disclose
the identitify of this or her principal;
(2) Identify itself as a PETITION for the ISSUANCE, AMENDMENT, OR REPEAL of a rule;
(3) Identify the specific section(s) of the regulations to be affected;
(4) Set forthe the factual and legal grounds on which the petitioner relies,
in support of the proposed action; and
(5) Be addressed and submitted to the
FEDERAL ELECTION COMMISSION, OFFICE OF THE GENERAL COUNSEL,
999 E STREET, NW., WASHINGTON, DC 20463.
(c) The petition may include draft regulatory language that would effectuate
the petitionser's proposal.
(d) The Commission may, in its discretion, treat a document that fails to
conform to the format requirements of paragraph (b) of this section as a basis for a
sua sponte rulemaking. For example, the Commission may consider whether to
intitiate a rulemaking project addressing issues raised in an advisory opinion request
submitted under 11 CFR 112.1 or in a complaint filed under 11 CFR 111.4. However, the
Commission need not follow the procedures of 11 CFR 200.3 in these instances.

smrstrauss said...

Since the rule that is described here asks for a candidate to provide his official birth certificate, Obama can show it easily. That is what he has already put on line and showed to FactCheck and Polifact, and the facts on it were confirmed by the officials in Hawaii.

As the Wall Street Journal says about the "Birther Bill," which also asks for the official birth certificate: "Further, if Congress were to pass the so-called birther bill, Obama would be able to comply easily. The bill would require presidential campaigns to submit “a copy of the candidate’s birth certificate” to the Federal Election Commission. The certificate Obama has released publicly would meet this requirement."