Wednesday, September 26, 2007

Ron Paul Campaign officials deny involvement in attacks on Giuliani in Michigan: Why he and his Campaign should not be believed

by Eric Dondero

From the Detroit Free Press (9/25/7):

Texas congressman and Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul does not believe that 9/11 was an “inside job” and his campaign distanced itself from a raucous pro-Paul demonstration on a Mackinac Island ferry Friday night, a Paul spokesman said Monday.
In the incident, Paul's supporters taunted former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani for alleged complicity in the attacks.

Spokesman Jesse Benton said the campaign was aware of Internet reports about the demonstration, which occurred late Friday when Giuliani boarded a ferry loaded with Paul supporters leaving a Michigan GOP conference. No Paul campaign officials were involved, Benton said.

According to one eyewitness, Giuliani was beset by dozens of Paul enthusiasts as he was leaving the island, some of whom shouted taunts about 9/11, including: “9/11 was an inside job” and “Rudy, Rudy, what did you do with the gold?” -- an apparent reference to rumors about $200 million in gold alleged to have disappeared in the collapse of the World Trade Center towers.

Ed Wyszynski, a longtime party activist from Eagle, said the Paul supporters threatened to throw Giuliani overboard and harrassed him as he took shelter in the ferry’s pilothouse for the 15-minute journey back to Mackinaw City.

“It was awful,” said Wyszynski, who supports Mitt Romney for the GOP presidential nomination.“I was embarrassed to be a Republican. Never, ever, have I seen such a disgraceful performance.”

A blurry video of the incident was posted on the Website in which chants of “Ron Paul, Ron Paul” predominate, but also include someone shouting “Lies cannot stand the light of day.” Several other pro-Paul forums carried triumphant accounts of the event, suggesting that Giuliani was intimidated by the show of support for a rival.

I worked for Ron Paul for 12 years. During the last 6 years I served as his Senior Aide on his Congressional Staff. Previous to that I served in various capacities on his many political campaigns, including as his Travel Aide for his 1988 Presidential run on the Libertarian ticket.

The tactics that were used in Michigan were par for the course for Ron Paul. On many occasions during my 12-year strint with him, he highly encouraged us campaign workers and volunteers to engage in such activities. In fact, Paul made such tactics into an art forum. He is an expert at political theatre, and in particular, a very agressive brand of political theatre.

Two instances come to mind.

In 1988, with the Presidential campaign, Ron instructed us to "disrupt" George W. Bush's Campaign for President announcement at a downtown hotel in Houston. We obliged. Another Campaign staffer Kevin Southwick and I led a merry band of Paul for President supporters into the ballroom. There were about 6 to 8 of us, if I recall. Our mission was to carry Ron Paul, Libertarian for President signs, and loudly shout "Ron Paul, Ron Paul, Ron Paul" during Bush's announcement speech. We did this, much to the great displeasure of the stunned Bush supporters. Eventually, we were shuffled out of the hallway. Though, we continued with our little Ron Paul demonstration afterwards on the streets in front of the hotel.

Another similar instance was a bit more personal. In 1996, Ron had fallen behind Democrat Lefty Morris in the general election. Morris was being particularly nasty. He even organized demonstrations calling Ron Paul a "Right-wing Fascist" and even had supporters draw Swastikas on their signs. They would demonstrate against us, at hotel press conferences by Ron, particularly in Victoria. Lefty and his Austin Democrat pals, had dug up some dirt on Ron which tied him to some very questionable Far Right and even racist groups. The Austin liberal media chamber echoed everything that Morris put out on Ron.

Our Ron Paul for Congress campaign team at the time, including Ron, held many emergency brainstorming sessions in the backrooms of the Clute office and on the deck at Ron's Surfside beachouse, to figure out how to respond. Ron's "Kitchen Cabinet" were all in attendence in Surfside, including: Lew Rockwell, Ron's longtime political consultant from DC Tony Peyton (now deceased), Houston Christian Right activist Marc Elam, and Ron's behind the scenes John Bircher fundraiser David Mertz, aka David "James".

Campaign Manager Elam suggested to me that since I was half-Jewish I ought to go to Lefty's press conference to disrupt the event. We had gotten word that Morris was going to hold a press conference in Victoria, with documents proving that Ron Paul had close ties to Radical Right-wing Anti-Semitic and other racist groups. One of our campaign team members, even suggested that I wear a Jewish yalmaca (like a beanie cap), and loudly challenge Morris in the middle of his speech.

I did. All by myself I went to the event wearing my Jewish yalmaca, and other Jewish adornment. Half-way through the press conference, when Morris started to wave papers proving Paul's ties to Anti-Semitic groups, I loudly interrupted that "I was Jewish, and was a top Campaign Staffer for Ron Paul," and continued that Ron Paul would not have hired me if he hated Jews.

The Victoria media ate it up. They absolutely loved the drama of the quick rebuff. Morris was even trembling at one point while I was challenging him. It made the front page of the Victoria Advocate. The lone network TV station in Victoria ran the story on both their evening and nightly broadcasts.

Needless to say that was the end of the Morris attacks from the racist angle on Paul. (He quickly turned to attacking Ron on "gutting Social Security" and wanting to "legalize drugs").

It's not at all a stretch to say that Ron Paul has won many of his past campaigns precisly because he and his campaign staff have intimidated the other side with highly agressive campaign tactics.

Dianna Kile Gilbert, still on Paul's Congressional staff, and the only staffer we kept on the payroll from former Cong. Greg Laughlin, famously used to tell us loyal Ron Paulists, how the Laughlin people were "shocked" at how we would wave signs shouting for Ron Paul all over the rural Congressional District. Dianna said humbly, that they knew they were going to lose the primary when every day they would see us Paulists shouting and waving signs on major intersections not far from their District offices in Victoria and Bay City.

To hear top Paul Campaign staffers, many of whom I know personally, now try to distance themselves from the Macinac Island taunts on Rudy Giuliani is just downright laughable. Such tactics come straight out of the "official" Ron Paul Manual on how to win Elections. And the dictates on implementing such tactics come directly from the big boss man himself -- Ron Paul.


Anonymous said...

What do you have against Ron? Don't you want hiim to win?

Anonymous said...

OH, Eroc - didn't your Mom ever tell you that you're a loser? Well, she should have.

YOur picture should be in the dictionary under "disgruntled terminated employee with short guy syndrome."

BIg yawn - the muslims have to get past China, Russia and each other before they'll show up here.

We listened to that crap about the commies and the Germans, too.

If they come here, we'll kick their asses back to the desert.

But they won't come here.

Anonymous said...

I like those tactics. Thanks for the ideas. I think we (Ron Paul supporters) should take off the gloves and start ruining all other candidate functions. Peaceful, yet disruptive... Maybe I can get tasered for RP.

The country will thank us when RP is bringing the troops home.

Anonymous said...

Eric was fired that's now he's on a mission to derail Ron. Just put him on ignore.

Ryan said...

Special Report with Brit Hume on The Fox News Channel and the Associated Press report that the Paul Campaign did not officially orchestrate the verbal attcak on Mayor Giuliani and that Congressman Paul does not personally believe that the attacks of September the 11th are an inside job.

However, Congressman Paul has surrounded himself in his presidential campaign with prominent "9/11 Truth Seekers", who believe that 9/11 was orchestrated by the U.S. government.

It is perfectly clear that Congressman Paul should distance himself publicly from these vile and disgusting "truth seekers", and yet he does not, which begs the question, does the Congressman believe the attacks of September the 11th were conducted by elements of the U.S. government or an American-Israeli conspiracy?

The longer the Congressman surrounds himself with such elements and does not condone their behavior, the mainstream press will take a closer look at who the Congressman associates with and if his supporters believe the attacks were an inside job.

His supporters verbally attacking the Mayor and screaming that it was an inside job reflects very poorly on Paul and he should condemn such despicable "campaign tactics". There have been reports circulating in the blogesphere about the Congressman's ties to Anti- Semites and "truth seekers".

Perhaps the Congressman's supporters should be put under the same intense scrutiny.

Fluffy said...

After the way he's behaved in this campaign, Giuliani doesn't deserve courtesy or respect from Ron Paul supporters.

And Dondero, you are a grade-A clown if you think that somehow the Paul campaign arranged to have over 100 of their supporters ride the same ferry as Giuliani.

How could they know that Giuliani wouldn't have an equal number of supporters with him on the ferry? How could they even be sure what ferry Rudy would take? Did they have over 100 people hang out on the docks all night? Think this through, dopey.

Here's the best reason why the campaign had nothing to do with this: if I had ended up on the ferry with Giuliani, I would have chanted "Fuck you, Rudy" at the top of my lungs for the entire 15 minute ride - and I have had no prompting from the campaign at all. Why postulate that this was planned by the campaign, when plain old-fashioned hatred of a thug like Giuliani is sufficient to generate the screaming all by its lonesome?

You're just angry because your idol Captain 9/11 turns out to not have superpowers after all, and hid in the boat cabin like a scared little girl instead of facing a semi-hostile crowd. Ronald Reagan would have waded into the crowd with a big smile on his face and walked out of there with half the people switching their votes to him. Giuliani had to sneak off the boat by a special exit instead.

Fluffy said...

Also, by what possible stretch of the imagination is HAVING SUPPORTERS WAVE SIGNS ON STREET CORNERS "aggressive and intimidating campaign tactics"?

What an unbelievably disingenuous piece of crap you are, Dondero.

Fluffy said...

Also also -

If you are Jewish, and you were in fact a staffer for Paul, your confrontation of the other candidate at the press conference was entire appropriate and fair, and not a "dirty campaign trick" at all.

Paul's opponent deserved to be embarrassed, so you embarrassed him. Where's the part I'm supposed to care about?

morerice said...

Little Ewik scores again. Another colorful piece of verbal flatulence and utter nonsense. This recent hitpiece against Ron Paul is based entirely on his fabricated conspiricy theory that the campaign had a hand with the chance encouncer of over 100 Ron Paul supporters with Rude Rudy.

This conspiricy theory by Ewik has at best questionable motivations. I wouldn't be least bit surprised if Little Ewik is a paid shill on Rudy's or some Neo-Con payroll to smear Ron's reputation. What a jackass!

Jim Fryar said...

“It was awful,” said Wyszynski, who supports Mitt Romney for the GOP presidential nomination.“I was embarrassed to be a Republican. Never, ever, have I seen such a disgraceful performance.”

Pretty much says it all. I recently made a comment which indicated a belief that the actions of Ron Paul supporters may be a reflection of the type of person he is.

On reflection I revised this with the following statement:-
He comes across as a person of quiet dignity and determination, and I feel that the actions by some of his groupies would be beneath him. At least I hope so.

A person of quiet dignity and determination would in my opinion totally disassociate himself from those thugs, and urge any 'misguided supporters' to act with decorum.

The refusal of the candidate to denounce the 9/11 truthers as nutters, "there is no evidence" just doesn't cut it. It leaves these fools with the impression that he is open on the issue. This sort of rot does Americas image nothing but harm.

By the same token, "No Paul campaign officials were involved" just doesn't cut it.

Eric Dondero said...

That's the point Jim. Ron's graceful deamenor in public, leads many to believe that he must be a down-to-earth, honest smalltown Doctor. He's anything but. In private he can be a very demanding, dictating, even yelling boss. He's also quite Machiavellian and even scheming.

How else does one explain all his elections, with such controversial views?

Not saying this is totally bad. I share many of the same traits Ron has. And I sometimes admire him for his political accuement.

But, it's amazing to me that people think he's just a "friendly guy" who is good natured and would never hurt a fly. And that if anything negative happens from his campaigns surely, it is to be blamed on his "handlers."

Uh, uh, uh.

With Ron Paul, the buck stops at his desk (in Clute). He knows everything that goes on in his campaigns, and even has a hand in most of it. Do not be fooled by his humble and welcoming demeanor.

Eric Dondero said...


I am not saying that the use of such campaign tactics is necessarily a bad thing. On the contrary. Mostly, I think it's a good thing. Hell, I'm dissapointed in my man Giuliani for not using the same sort of tactics himself.

What I am saying, is that his campaign staffers should not be believed when they say that they had no hand in orchestrating such demonstrations.

As a matter of fact, knowing Ron Paul as much as I do, I have little if any doubt that he himself was involved in giving the nod for this demonstration and similar demonstrations in the recent past.

Again, Ron Paul is a very, very controlling person with his personal financial dealings, hirees, and most especially in how all his political campaigns are run. Nothing escapes him.

To disconnect him from the actions of his supporters is naiive at best.

Anonymous said...

This is just a drive by hit piece. How much money from the military industrial complex did you get for this? Disgusting.

Anonymous said...

Rudy oversaw police brutality at its worst, Abner Louima. He stood by the Police even though they were wrong.

Rudy was in charge when 9/11 happened. Thats not a good thing.

Rudy said it was safe to come back and many people were exposed to poisonous WTC dust.

Rudy Ghouliani is simply a bad man. He is also a career gun grabbing autocratic non-constitutionalist.

Rudy is hated by the NYPD.

If Rudy knew the constitution, he would know as a Knight Commander , Order of the British Empire (KBE), he is forbidden to be President per:
Article 1, Section 9, Clause 8

"No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince or foreign State."

Also, the missing 13th amendment, which was surely to be ratified but DC was destroyed in a fire set be they British durin the war of 1812 - this is to show how much the US detested foreign entitlements at the time:

"If any citizen of the United States shall accept, claim, receive or retain any title of nobility or honour, or shall, without the consent of Congress accept and retain any present, pension, office or emolument of any kind whatever, from any emperor, king, prince or foreign power, such person shall cease to be a citizen of the United States and shall be incapable of holding any office of trust or profit under them, or either of them. "

Rudolph Giuliani gave working people plenty of reasons to hate him during his eight long years as mayor of New York City. But he left office at the end of last year a hero.

Time magazine named him 2001’s "Person of the Year"--for his performance in front of the cameras after the September 11 attack on the World Trade Center.

Giuliani may have come off as a human being during the tragedy. But his record as mayor tells a different story--that he helped to wreck the lives of thousands of people with eight years of racist and anti-poor policies and his unwavering support for New York’s murderers in blue.

New York schools have become some of the most overcrowded and run-down in the country. But Giuliani scapegoated teachers, refusing to raise their salaries even minimally without "merit pay." In 1995, he slashed the budget for the City University of New York--and then had police attack students who dared to protest.

When transit workers prepared to go on strike in December 1999, Giuliani threatened each transit employee with jail for just using the word "strike"--and a daily $25,000 fine if they walked.

Giuliani used "Quality of Life" laws to go after taxi drivers, street vendors, protesters, bicyclists--and basically anyone who showed signs of being poor. "Streets do not exist in civilized societies for the purpose of people sleeping there," Time’s Person of the Year once sneered. "Bedrooms are for sleeping."

But Giuliani’s most enduring legacy may be his support for racial profiling and police murder. From the hideous torture of Abner Louima in 1997 and the murder of Amadou Diallo in a hail of 41 bullets in 1999, Giuliani relentlessly supported the NYPD Black and Blue.

At the same time, Giuliani showered massive tax breaks on Wall Street and the corporations.

Corporate media outlets like Time may pay tribute to this monster. But Giuliani’s real legacy is eight years of racist scapegoating, police terror and attacks on education.

Eric Dondero said...

And yours is a drive by comment. Why the posting under "Anonymous"? You too much of a pussy-boy to tell us who you really are? At least Ken Hamilton, Morerice and other critics on this list have the balls to list their name in their posts.

You Sir, are not even in their class, cause you hide behind "Anonymous."

Or, perhaps you're just Justin Raimondo in drag?

oliverc said...

Eric Dondero:
"He knows everything that goes on in his campaigns, and even has a hand in most of it."

Puh-lease! This is completely ludicrous. The *vast* majority of his support is totally de-centralized and spontaneous. How can he possibly know everything that is going on.

These kind of statements seriously damage what little credibility you had.

This is the most mis-named blog I've ever seen. Rudy Giuliani - libertarian?! You've got to be kidding. He's the most scary and authoritarian of the entire group.

Rick Fisk said...

This post is hillarious. I mean really. Also, the 9/11 truther statements have never been verified and there is a video of the event. None of those statements are recorded on the video.

Dondero poses as a Jew and then blames Ron Paul? How many times will he put on the garb for Rudy?

Kevin said...

My name is mentioned in Mr. Dondero's article regarding Ron Paul campaign activity in 1987 or 1988 at a Bush event. Indeed I was at the event and I remember someone named Eric Rittberg, a campaign worker for Dr. Paul, was there also. I remember wearing a campaign hat with "Ron Paul" on it. I do not know what Mr. Rittberg did, but I comported myself cordially conducted myself as I and as Ron would have wanted.

Anonymous said...

So Eric, is Ron Paul anti-semitic and has close ties to white supremacist groups? as you refer to in post?

sites like Hotair are insuniating that more or less recently.

Anonymous said...

If the name "Eric Dondero" comes up you automatically know what is being said is bullshit. Why did Paul fire you again? You couldn't behave like a normal adult in a car?

Anonymous said...

Please take the title "Libertarian" off your blog. It is just down right misleading and dishonest. No one who supports the war can seriously be considered a Libertarian.

Beth said...

Yep, the Scientologi--er, the Ron Paul Cult has found you and MUST shout you down and say what you've written is untrue, because Thou Shalt Not Take Ron Paul's Name In Vain.

The way I see it, anyone getting screamed at by RP Cultists is right on target. Obviously, none of them have ever looked at any of the evidence against Ron Paul, because it's "heresy." They simply don't care if white supremacists and troofers are on their side. Not one has ever shown any expectation whatsoever that RP should unconditionally denounce the devotion of troofers or white supremacists. Not even the most reasonable (FWIW) have done so.

It's absolutely no surprise that his disciples would be behind attacks on any other candidates, judging from their behavior on the internet and willingness to accept filth in their midst. "The ends justify the means," to them.

(Gotta love the anonymous cowards commenting here--LOL!)

Anonymous said...

Please take the title "Libertarian" off your blog. It is just down right misleading and dishonest. No one who supports the war can seriously be considered a Libertarian.

October 29, 2007 6:14 PM

hmm, how about Barry Goldwater? He ran as a Vietnam Hawk in 1964, and advocated Nuking the North Vietnamese, and said we should've gone into Vietnam 10 years earlier.

Ron Paul is no true Libertarian